Tokiwa Parts was brass flanges

Erwinpiano Erwinpiano@email.msn.com
Sun, 8 Apr 2001 13:25:32 -0700


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  Wally Writes
I don't use Tokiwas any more because I find the quality lacking in =
comparison.  A new set requires much more repinning than Renner or Abel. =
 I always expect to have to do a few, but not most of the set.  =
Apparently that hasn't been your experience . . . .

Wally Wilson, RPT

  Wally

   I know that your complaint sounds like many that came from a time =
before the Tokiwa parts switched to a denser white centered bushing =
cloth.  That was at least 4or5 yrs. ago now as I recall.

      The truth is that if you hang enough of a variety of parts over a =
long enough time period that eventually you will have some =
incosistencies with any/all of the  parts  supplier/ makers parts. =
Pinning will always have bobbles and foibles as this part of assembly to =
my knowledge is done by hand and if you require stricter standards or =
the parts are simply to loose/tight repinning is just a fact of piano =
technicianin life.  I have had tokiwa ,renner  and yamaha factory parts =
sieze for a variety of resons.  Are these basd parts? naaah. Just =
manufacturing blips.
      Much as I dislike it I must suck it up and move ahead.

       Someone once said to me " The secret of life is two things"  =
1.Don't sweat the small stuff.
   2. It's all small stuff!
    Best

   Dale Erwin
      =20
      =20





  Hi Dale,
              I've found the Tokiwa parts to be every bit as good as =
Renner and Abel.  The wippens are 1gm lighter than Renner, and are =
maple.  A definite advantage where touch weight is a concern.

  Like you I have a complete set of Renner, Abel, Tokiwa, and North =
American Parts.  It takes all the guess work out of ordering, when you =
do mock up prior to starting.

  I like to do DW/UW/friction measurements with the old parts, then =
install each part,  measure and compare to see cause and effect.  I then =
order the parts.=20
  This I do, after rebushing, fully servicing, and fitting the keybed =
for correct bushing clearance etc.
  As this can skew results, and it further reduces the risk of error.

  Maybe this will be helpful to some.
  Regards Roger

  PS.  Some of Wally's parts are Tokiwa.

  At 05:49 PM 4/7/01 -0700, you wrote:=20

      Wim

        I've done this twice and I believe that the parts I used to =
match the old ones came from pacific(the tokiwa parts).  As much as I've =
heard these parts denigrated by some I have found the complaints =
unfounded. In fact they are  very well made parts and  I don't hesitate =
to use them when needed.  I suspect that Renner and Brooks(Abel) have =
parts that would fit as well and I'm sure that the new line of Tokiwa =
knabe and chickering wippens will be a welcome asset to our parts =
replacement endeavors and possibly yours. To my knowledge no other maker =
provides these style wippens
          Typically when I replace action parts I have a complete =
set(almost) of sample parts from most parts makers that I simply match =
the best part for a   particular application.  Myyyyy, isn't life Grand =
to have so many choices these days.  Persevere Wim a solution is out =
there.=20
       Finding appropriate parts isn't difficult like it used to be in =
yrs past.  I'll you have to do is order them.  Each part maker I know =
either has demo kits or a full size picture of their parts.
         One last word of caution.  The chickering piano used very light =
hammers and matching them is difficult. Beside a 6ft. 4" chickering  =
would benefit tonally from more hammer weight(strike wt.) which means a =
shank with a different knuckle spread might be a better choice to help =
carry the extra gram or so.

      Best

        Dale=20






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