Thank you, Tony. I was hoping it would sound familiar to someone, and everything you say rings true. I'll look for what you describe when I next visit the piano. I love this list. Paul S. Larudee, RPT Richmond, CA Tony Caught wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner but try this one. > > Two pins at top of action posts. There should be three or four screws > through the balance rail into the key bed. There may also be screws in the > key front bar. > > Looking at the top of the keys you should find slotted screw head marks. > > I have also found that is some pianos the back touch rail has also been > screwed down at both ends. Reason is that when the una corda pedal is > activated the initial pressure is upward on the action post. > > Alternate is that these screw points generally line up with the keybed cross > pieces (back to front), locate them from the underside of the keyboard then > lift the keys up from the top at that position to find screws. > > The action and keybed are one piece, the action posts are dowelled and > screwed to the keybed from the under side > > Failing all above the only answer is to take all the keys out and inspect > for the screws. > In removing and replacing the keys the stickers should come out of the holes > at the back of the keys with a piece of felt on the bottom, in the bottom of > the hole is a screw for adjusting the sticker height (same as key capstain) > I have always found it easier to (when replacing the key) put the sticker > into the hole before placing the key back onto the key frame. > > Adjusting the sticker screws must be done in the piano with the key frame > locked down. > > Have Fun > > Tony Caught ICPTG > Australia > caute@optusnet.com.au > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <larudee@pacbell.net> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 3:57 AM > Subject: Re: Stumped > > > Newton, > > > > Yes, the pins at the top of the action posts testify that they intended > > to make action removal reasonably easy. I didn't have time to look > > under all the key fronts. There is a small sticker attached to the > > wippens which goes into sockets in the keys and makes key removal and > > reinsertion somewhat more cumbersome. (The stickers pivot sideways as > > well as front to back because the hammer assembly shifts with the una > > corda, but not the keys.) I looked for buttons, dowels and plugs > > (none). Next time I'll check under the rest of the key fronts, but > > there was nothing going sideways into the key blocks and nothing at the > > back of the blocks either. As far as I could tell there was nothing > > under the key bed, but there has to be something somewhere, right? The > > whole case, keyblocks and keyslip are covered in a beautiful walnut > > marquetry veneer, so I didn't want to force anything too much. The odd > > thing is that everthing seems to be attached to everything else. > > There's no give anywhere. Usually I can move something just a little > > bit to see where it's attached, but this thing is like chiseled out of > > marble. Maybe I just need some open-ended time with it. And yes, next > > time I'll look behind the piano. > > > > Thanks for the suggestions. > > > > Paul > > > > Newton Hunt wrote: > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > Even in those days the workers wanted to be able to get the > > > action out easily, for them anyway. > > > > > > I would first look under the key fronts, behind the > > > keyblocks, sideways intro the keyblocks, and under the > > > keybed. I have seen screws installed so flush and painted > > > the same color as the surround that they were nearly > > > invisible until the light was just right. > > > > > > Look under any buttons or plugs, look FOR plugs (unlikely). > > > It is also possible there are dowel pins somewhere. > > > > > > The keyslip may be removable, like an S&S but so tight it is > > > stuck. > > > > > > They didn't leave instructions did they. > > > > > > >From behind the piano? Nah, that is too obvious. > > > > > > Maybe the whole keybed comes out. > > > > > > Lots of fun playing hide and seek. > > > > > > Lot os luck. > > > > > > Newton > >
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