HT Experience

Richard Brekne Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no
Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:13:53 +0200


Pages 256  to 265 has the Youngs Rules for tuning the Vallotti. In Jorgensens
book "TUNING".

Paul wrote:

> Terry
> Has any one posted the Valotti temperament as found in Jorgenson's book i.e.
> the page number etc. I've got the book and would like to try it.
>
> Paul Chick
>
> PS your replies came through
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 1:16 PM
> Subject: Re: HT Experience
>
> > Expect much favorable comments! I have tuned my home piano to Valotti for
> > about six months now. A couple months ago I went back to ET and my wife
> > SCREAMED! I very quickly put Valotti back on and she was happy. I tuned
> one
> > of my son's piano teacher's pianos with Valotti and she said the piano
> never
> > sounded so good!
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> > Piano Tuning & Service
> > Tampa, Florida
> > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: HT Experience
> >
> >
> > > Ok boys and girls. I tuned my first HT today. The Young Villotti, on a
> > Yamaha LU
> > > series upright. Posted a note on the door that I would keep it like this
> > for some
> > > weeks forward and encouraged all students and teachers to experiment and
> > experience
> > > it.
> > >
> > > As for my own reactions. A couple things came to mind right away. First
> > this
> > > continuing discussion about the Reverse Well.  Ok... there are obviously
> > degrees
> > > involved here. Because I can tell you the Young Villotti was so very
> very
> > obviously
> > > not an ET tuning that you would have to be completely useless as a tuner
> > if you
> > > could not notice the difference after playing this for a bit... if not
> > like within
> > > a few seconds really. With this in mind I would suspect that the Reverse
> > Well
> > > disscussion is somewhat an over driven point, curious enough in its own
> > right.. but
> > > I cant imagine this phenomena resulting in a tuning that is so removed
> > from ET as
> > > what I tuned today was. Either that or something is very seriously wrong
> > indeed
> > > with how we decide what comprises a tuning that is good enough to pass
> the
> > RPT
> > > test, and frankly I doubt things could get that out of hand.
> > >
> > > I must say tho I liked very much the resulting tuning. It was very
> > different, and
> > > certain chords, intervals, keys.. etc etc.. were of course too
> discordant
> > to be at
> > > all pleasing. Yet those that were, were indeed beautiful to listen to in
> a
> > > completly un-accustomed to manner. It is easy indeed to imagine a
> composer
> > with
> > > these tonal parameters at hand utilizing the different kinds of effects
> > different
> > > beat rates create for what in ET are essentially the same intervals,,
> > chords...
> > > what have you. In ET a major third is indeed a major third in a sense
> that
> > simply
> > > is not the case in the Young Villotti. Some of these "major thirds"
> indeed
> > approach
> > > distances that would require another lable.. as in diminished fourth..
> or
> > perhaps
> > > even an augmented minor third if you get my meaning.
> > >
> > > The piano itself reacted well to this temperament in the sense that I
> got
> > no
> > > feeling at all that this modern instrument was unsuitable in any fashion
> > whatsoever
> > > to being tuned in this fashion... quite the opposite really. It sounded
> > quite nice
> > > indeed.
> > >
> > > I will keep you all posted as to the responses I get from the different
> > students
> > > and teachers as the next few days and weeks pass. This is an interesting
> > adventure,
> > > one that I can recommend to one and all.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Richard Brekne
> > > RPT, N.P.T.F.
> > > Bergen, Norway
> > >
> > > PS... The tuning was accomplished by use of the RCT historic tuning
> > library. I
> > > followed along with the recipie given in Owens book. Wanted to do it
> this
> > way the
> > > first couple times to get a feel for how it basically should sound. Will
> > let my ear
> > > take over when I feel comfortable enough with the aural temperament
> > routine.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >

--
Richard Brekne
RPT, N.P.T.F.
Bergen, Norway




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