HT Experience

David Ilvedson ilvey@jps.net
Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:37:45 -0700


I'm all for exploration and will explore HT but lets not get too far ahead
of ourselves.

David I.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
> Of Richard Brekne
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:03 AM
> To: pianotech@ptg.org
> Subject: Re: HT Experience
>
>
> Well,, yes of course... but more then that I think our
> discussions, little as
> they may or maynot be reflect the greater discussion about the
> same sort of
> thing going on in the music world at large. Music has never stood
> too awfully
> still for long.
>
> David, let me ask you something. What is essentially wrong with
> the idea of
> exploring / re-exploring all the different kinds of intervals
> that have been
> constructed throughout tuning history. Musicians can create all
> kinds of effects
> with these if they want to. What is wrong with us as piano tuners
> learning as
> much as we can about how to create these various tunings for them ?
>
> Personally, I see only positives in all of this. It can enhance
> our status, help
> to educate the music public at large as to what we really do, and
> potentially
> add lots of dollars or kroners as the case may be to our pocket
> books. Not to
> mention the fun in exploring the vast world of sound at our disposal.
>
> As for how this lists discussions influence the tuning and music world at
> large... well hey.. look at Rogers experience... and look whats
> going on here in
> Bergen.. none of this would have happened here and now had it not
> been for these
> discussions. Further there are lots and lots of "listeners" out
> there reading
> these posts in silence. Dont think they are not influenced one
> way or the other.
> ET was a natural development, and so is the wish to re-discover
> territory long
> since covered, this time with new technology, newer types of
> instruments and a
> new mentality.
>
> David Ilvedson wrote:
>
> > Richard,
> >
> > Do you really think our little discussions on the List is going
> to have any
> > real effect on the overall use of ET in the world of music?
> >
> > David I.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org
> [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
> > > Of Richard Brekne
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 11:48 AM
> > > To: pianotech@ptg.org
> > > Subject: Re: HT Experience
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > David Ilvedson wrote:
> > >
> > > > You've got to be kidding?
> > >
> > > Grin.... About what David ? Do you really think that this
> experience is so
> > > incredible, or are you just kidding around ?
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David I.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org
> > > [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
> > > > > Of Clyde Hollinger
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:35 AM
> > > > > To: pianotech@ptg.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: HT Experience
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger,
> > > > >
> > > > > HTs have gotten a lot of discussion the last couple years.  So
> > > > > are we on the
> > > > > edge of abandoning ET as the "normal standard" in favor of
> > > > > something else like
> > > > > the Valotti Young you mentioned?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Clyde
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger Jolly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Greetings all,
> > > > > >                     Today I had a great experience, I was
> > > > > invited to speak
> > > > > > at our local registered teacher's monthly meeting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The title of the talk.  Talking to your technician to get
> > > the most from
> > > > > > your piano.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How they could check their own piano for regulation and voicing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since I had a cooperative teacher, I thought I'd try my
> > > hand at HT for a
> > > > > > closer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The teachers were warned with a smile that they had to take an
> > > > > ear training
> > > > > > 101 exam as the conclusion to my chat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since we had been talking about what was tuning and what was
> > > > > voicing, they
> > > > > > had to identify which piano was in tune.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Two concert grands, one tuned in ET, the other in Volatti Young
> > > > > > The piece, the first two movements of Beethoven's Pathetique.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Volatti Young won the vast majority of votes. Surprised the
> > > > > heck out of
> > > > > > me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The surprise in the room was some thing to experience when
> > > I ran major
> > > > > > triad progressions through out the temperament on each piano.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was admonished for asking trick questions.  Both were in
> > > tune, just
> > > > > > different.  <G>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The down side, I've been asked back, to do a three piano
> > > > > comparison. Mean
> > > > > > tone, HT and ET
> > > > > > Any suggestions on piece selection, I'm looking to show the
> > > > > widest contrast.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank's to Ed Foote for pointing me in this direction, and
> > > > > giving me enough
> > > > > > guts to try it.
> > > > > > Such a great class in Arlington Ed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards Roger
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roger Jolly
> > > > > > Saskatoon, Canada.
> > > > > > 306-665-0213
> > > > > > Fax 652-0505
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Richard Brekne
> > > RPT, N.P.T.F.
> > > Bergen, Norway
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Richard Brekne
> RPT, N.P.T.F.
> Bergen, Norway
>
>
>



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