felt knuckles????

[John R Fortiner]

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:39:15 -0700 "Delwin D Fandrich"
<pianobuilders@olynet.com> writes:
> John,
> 
> Yes, Steinway did install a solid felt knuckle on, apparently, a 
> very few
> actions.  From what little I have been able to learn about these 
> over the
> years, this was a relatively short-lived test run as part of their 
> response
> to the ongoing shortage of buckskin at the time.
> 

> So, the bottom line...  what are these things like now?
*Round and firm.
 Do you know 
> anything
> of their service history?
**Only that I have serviced the action with teflon and that they are
quiet.  Not really a problem to regulate with consistant results.
 How much use have they received?
**I can only judge that by the wear on the leather knuckles on the same
instrument - as they are badly worn.  The current owner is a heavy
classical pianist  -  and a very good one at that.
 How is 
> their
> shape?
**As above - ROUND
 How have they worn over the years?
**Evidently much better than the leather ones on the same action.
 Are they noisy?
Not at all.
 Do they 
> squeak?
**NO!
In
> other words, from what you can see now -- how have they worked over 
> the
> years and can you compare their service to the leather covered 
> knuckles on
> the same action?
**In terms of wear - better.  However, their diameter is larger and I
would like to see a consistant diameter of the knuckles on the entire
action to make a more fair judgement in this matter.
> 
> What a wonderful opportunity to learn something! I'm looking forward 
> to
> anything you can tell us about these knuckles.
**That action is coming into my shop tomorrow morning.  If there is
ANYTHING that I can look for or determine for you, please let me know.

John R. Fortiner
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Del
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John R Fortiner" <pianoserv440@juno.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: September 28, 2000 8:28 PM
> Subject: felt knuckles????
> 
> 
> > List:  I was servicing an older S&S "L" today and had to pull the 
> action.
> >  About 1/2 of the shanks had knuckles that were felt ONLY - no 
> buckskin.
> > Did Steinway ever use that style of knuckle??
> > If not where did they come from??
> > btw the all felt knuckles are quite a bit larger in diameter than 
> the
> > ones with buckskin coverings and seem to have a lot more jack to 
> knuckle
> > friction than the ones with buckskin.
> >
> > John R. Fortiner
> > Billings, MT.
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