This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment My first question was about Stephen Birkett You are mixing things here I don't know you and you don't know me So why are you doing this? Dear list I don't know what is going on and why this guy his always = picking on me. Ola Andersson=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Brekne=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 11:51 PM Subject: Re: Hello Richard Brekne =20 Ola Andersson wrote:=20 Well I play on gut strings if you know what that is.=20 When I started doing this nobody did it but now we are some people = doing this.=20 I thought I contributed. If you did, fine... maybe you didnt... big deal... We all like to = think we contribute..thats good as long as we dont...er.... "have to" if = you get my meaning.=20 =20 I don't find myself on the side line at all. Do you really think so? Actually yes I do... and sadly by your own choice. At least in the = piano tuning trade. Listen Ola... 99 % of learning in this buisness is = being able to put your ego aside, and sit down on the school bench. It = takes a great deal of humility that piano tuners for the most part lack. = Part of this is the nature of how things are taught. Its hard to swallow = a lot of what a guy will tell you when he cant really explain it = satisfactorilly to you.=20 You simply gotta do the following if you want to learn (and I mean = really learn) how to tune and work on pianos:=20 Find a decent tech (and there are lots of them around... even in = Bergen) and learn to tune and regulate to satisfy that tech. Dont matter = whether or not you aggree with a whole lot of his judgements... just = learn to do it til he is full of comments like... "Now you got it". Then = take the test to join an association. If you fail the first time... well = welcome to the club of the majority. These tests are relatively = subjective, and to some degree its... learning how to tune for the other = guy all over again.=20 Now...as it were... I happen to be able to show you how to avoid most = of that nonsense if you are interested. I can also teach you enough = about piano and grand action regulation to get you past any and all = exams any association as contrived. After learning that stuff... I = 1million percent guarentee you that a visit by you to Newton, or from = Newton to Bergen will yeild you a whole shitload more valuable info then = it would at the present time.=20 I know all this cuz I been through the same route myself. Plenty of = talent... and closed off just about everybody around me (read accesable) = who coulda helped cuz I thought they couldnt teach me anything.. or = because I didnt respect their attidudes (and I had good reason from time = to time... grin).=20 In the end... I learned to forget all that nonsense... and exploit = whoever I wanted whenever I wanted for any knowledge I could get from = them. Some folks might call this kissing ass... I prefer to look at it = in a more positive light.=20 =20 Comming fron Sweden to Norway I have to say that generally that is = less interest in Music history here=20 than other places. Maybe not compared to where you come from? It was = ofcourse silly of me to comment on this, I probably don`t have enough = experience. Norway is a provincial country... limited resources in many regards.. = converative in many regards... but dont kid your self.. there are plenty = of folks interested in just about anything, including music history. = Perhaps it is a matter of you just not finding the right folks here yet. = Perhaps (likely) there is more sophisticated expression of such = interests in other places, Sweeden for example. But as the saying = goes... seek and you shall find.=20 As for where I come from... grin.. hard to say as I come from really = no place.. never stayed in the same town for more then 6 years did I as = I grew up. In Montana... they woulda said.. music what ??? In Seattle = you woulda had an entirely different answer. And in New York... well I = dont need to comment on that.=20 =20 Perhaps I`m not as smart as you are. You have to listen to Richard, = he has tuned more pianos than me.=20 I hope one day I also can have letters under my name. You have to drop this kinda stuff Ola. This isnt about smart.. it isnt = about listening to me... or about how many pianos I have tuned or what = letters I have under my name. I am an egg. Just learning.. and hopefully = always will remain so. This is about you... and what you want to do, how = much you want to learn. Fact is that I sit here with a lot of knowledge = that you dont have yet. If I wanted to learn about the Bass the = situation would be reversed to the nth degree no doubt. You can either = deal with that, and pump me for what I am worth.. growing in the = bargain.. or you can reduce this to a battle of egos. Its all in your = mind and within your power to decide.=20 Take the neccessary steps Ola. We need good piano techs in Bergen. And = by God you need (if piano work is really what you burn for) to get = yourself in a position where you can start getting really good and = interesting work... without having to rely on Henrik. I convinced = Bj=F8rn of that 4 years ago.. He is now making lots and lots of bucks... = and doesnt have to go home anymore irritated to shit over the fact that = he had to argue with Henrick to get paid again.. or some other = unneccesary shit. You dont need Henrik my freind. He needs you... big = time...=20 You can easily make 400 grand NOK a year here in Bergen.. but you will = never do it under the auspisciousness of H.E. He's going Konk again you = know... or didnt he tell you ??=20 As far as Newton is concerned... As I said.. I am open to the idea... = but not as a pie in the sky thing. I am willing to discuss = alternatives... and I have a few of my own. For your information I have = convinced 4 other techs in town to go good for 2000 NOK each as a = participants fee. I have talked Nils Henrick into putting his workshop = and pool of used instruments at our disposal.. he will also participate. = I am in contact with both the PTG and NPTF as to the possibility of = helping financing the project in the name of Intra national cooperation = and as part of the ongoing internationalization process going on within = the PTG. Newton is a long standing and highly thought of member of the = PTG and it may be that this will also weigh on their decision. I have no = idea of whether or not we will recieve any such support yet... but I do = know how to go about approaching these folks with such ideas.. and it = isnt ...grin... balls to the walls enthusiasim with resulting depression = when they get scared off.=20 If it happens it will happen in the fall around the fall school = holiday. Thats a lull in the action around here, and it will give Newton = time to fully recoperate from his recent accident. Realistically we must = operate on a budjet of at least 4000 dollars. (Circa 40,000 NOK) If it = turns out we can do it cheaper... great.. but we need to cover our = butts. 7 participants at 2000 apiece is 14000 NOK. It is not = un-thinkable to recieve blessing and support from two associations for = the remaining 26 000 NOK. Thats only about 2,600 dollars and in itself = is small potatoes for the PTG if they first decide to come on board.=20 So... like I have said... slow down... lets go through channels... = dont feel left out... and dont start pouting about this, that or the = other thing. I am not your enemy... My professional freindship is at = your disposal if you choose to utilize that. I can help you on your way = and smile at the day when you far surpass what I have been able to = accumulate in skill and knowledge, should that day come. Perhaps one day = you will have the opportunity to do the same for somebody else eh ??.=20 Ola Andersson btw .... names and titles and letters are just part of the game..=20 --=20 Richard Brekne=20 RPT, N.P.T.F.=20 Bergen, Norway=20 =20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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