When to do a pitch raise and how many passes one will do will always be a grey area I think. I do use an AccuTuner as a tool while tuning. I will charge extra for a pitch raise (about 50% of regular tuning fee) if the piano is more than 10 cents flat for most people. If it is between 10 and 50 cents flat, I will often only do two passes because the AccuTuner will help me get it within about 2 cents everywhere - usually (I often find a half-dozen center strings that I don't move at all after pitch raising - once in a while I will even find all three strings of a note right where I want them after a pitch raise of up to 50 cents!). Some pianos don't work out that well and may require more passes. If a client is an advanced player, we may talk about pitch raises when pitch is 5 cents off. So commonly I will come to a piano (or some facsimile thereof) that is 25 cents flat in bass, 50 cents flat in tenor, and 75 cents flat in treble (you know - those hi-quality three section types - like, a, can you say Winter). I start raising pitch in the bass and by the time I get to the upper treble I am faced with raising the pitch more than 100 cents. I explain to the customer that the hi treble is where the greatest chance of string breakage is and that we should probably do one-and-one-half pitch raises (for - you guessed it - a total of 75% of regular tuning fee) to be safe. That will let me go through the hi treble several times, bringing the pitch up slowly and minimizing overpull. When making the appointment, I ask them how long since last tune. When they say more than one year, I tell them about pitch raising, than pianos pitch lowers over the years and that I see some pianos that require more than one pitch raise - not many, but some (my record is 400 cents flat). (Even if they say its only been 8 months since the last tune, I will mention "Well, if your piano was tuned to standard pitch only 8 months ago, and tuned regularly prior to that, then it is unlikely that we will need to consider a PITCH RAISE" - I make sure even in this case they are aware that a piano below pitch may need a pitch raise.) When I get to the house, I check the pitch across the keyboard - usually one or two notes per octave - and tell the client right then and there what I recommend doing, and how much it will cost. So far, (although I have only tuned just less than 1,000 pianos) I have never had a complaint. I learned one thing by the post below though. I usually discuss recommended tuning intervals with a client after I am finished tuning. It is then that I mention that the tuning (if having done a pitch raise) will likely not last as long because of all the instability related to the pitch raise. I've never had a problem with that, but I can see the potential for someone to not be happy with that. I think that I will make a point to mention the potential tuning instability thing PRIOR to pitch raising next time - just so that the client is always fully informed prior to commencing work. Terry Farrell Piano Tuning & Service Tampa, Florida mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie W Bartlett" <lesbart1@juno.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:15 PM Subject: ? > Not being a machine tuner, I don't really know how to convince someone > that a pitch raise is necessary. Also, some people say they can do a > pitch raise, a second pass, and be done with it. Others say, NO- it takes > three tunings, sometimes, more. I'm confused.............. > les b > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >
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