This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi Jim, Of course you are right, there is a vast difference in climatic = conditions in the various parts of Australia and of course one should = never shift a piano outside its current living environment but that's = what people do. Moisture content of timber (pine) in Alice Springs can be as low as 5%, = Sydney is about 15% and Darwin (where I live) is either 23% or 14% = (depending on what time of year. I could go on about this but when some = one from Sydney rings my and says I am coming to Darwin and I have been = told that if I take my piano it will wreck it, 'what should I do ?') My answer is always 'bring your piano, put it in the right place in your = house, (no draughts, outside walls, rocky floors etc and have a = Dampp-Chaser de-humidity system fitted upon arrival and the piano will = be fine.' So a few do and the rest ignore the advise. Advise is great when people = ask for it and use it but otherwise it is all thought of as a sales con = and ignored. People can't and won't sell their 80yo piano because their are moving to = another place and then buy a new piano when they get there. It just = doesn't happen. When I say 'let it acclimatize first I mean that leave it for a month, = look at it, tighten or loosen the action, raise or lower the key = capstains etc etc depending on how the piano settles in to its new = home. Sure immediately put a Dampp-Chaser system in it immediately, = every piano should have one be it wet, dry or normal depending on the = condition, also, where are the people going next ?, how long are they = going to be there, ? Analyse the situation and then give the right = advise. The question was " Has anyone any experience with a Yamaha baby grand = purchased in Australia, being moved to North America? I have a = customer who has recently come from Australia, and brought his Yamaha baby grand. I was wondering if = it is liable to have some of the problems, associated with the used = imports from Japan." This was the question I answered. What I and Yamaha Australia refer to = as tropicalised pianos are, waterproof glues used in bridges and other = wood parts instead of white glue, hammer heads stapled instead of not = stapled. Timber also is seasoned to a different degree. The grey piano = is often made of cheaper materials. Timbers, glue, felt etc, it may look = the same but to maintain a set quality many thing are graded then used = as the manufacturer sees fit.=20 =20 Sorry for the rave but all I did was answer a question and I guess I = assumed that John knows the rest of the story because living in Alaska = he would have had many people move there from other places already, Regards Tony Caught ICPTG Australia caute@optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message -----=20 From: <JIMRPT@AOL.COM> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2000 2:05 Subject: Re: Re: Australian sold Yamaha >=20 > In a message dated 6/06/2000 12:09:06 AM, Tony C. wrote: >=20 > <<"All Yamaha grand's sold in Australia are top of the range, made in = Japan, >=20 > tropicalised pianos. Most likely the same as those made / sold in = America.">> >=20 > Tony; > I always thought there was a vast difference between say Alice = Springs and=20 > Sydney? Isn't there? Or does the four eucalyptus trees in Alice = Springs make=20 > it a "tropical Paradise"? :-) >=20 > Whether a piano was "made" for a certain climate or not the climate = which=20 > it lives in for the first years of its service is a determining factor = in=20 > where these thingees should and should not go as 'used' thingees, and = If they=20 > go where they shouldn't..... what can be done to prevent problems. >=20 > Example: a piano which has spent the first 15 years in Alice Springs = is=20 > gonna develop some problems when it is shipped to live in Sydney...Or = Miami=20 > TO: Anchorage...or Los Angeles TO: Pheonix....... and vise a versa on = all=20 > those locations. >=20 > When a 'used' piano, be it grey market,or S&S, or Baldwin etc..... is = shipped > to a vastly different climate, or life style, then it needs to be = treated=20 > accordingly. DC systems in those going from dry to wet and > 'Full' DC systems in those going from wet to dry. (or as I am sure = some will=20 > say 'full' systems in both) >=20 > With a little common sense from us tech types that should be no=20 > unsurmountable problems with these "grey market" thingees. Marketing = types=20 > notwithstanding. :-) > My view. > Jim Bryant (FL) >=20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/8e/d2/ed/32/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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