---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Kent .. you might find Harold Conklins article "Design and tone in the mechanoacoustic piano"... parts 1,2, and 3 available from JASA.. interesting. Also the articles in "5 Lectures on the Acoustics of Pianos" edited by Askenfelt has a whole bunch on this. This second is tough to get ahold of tho. The first can be ordered from sosmail@carl.org Richard Brekne I.C.P.T.G. N.P.T.F. Bergen, Norway Kent Swafford wrote: > Ron Nossaman wrote: > > > Not that I'd do any better gathering data myself, but at least I > >could determine first hand why I was still confused. I played around with > >an old Strobo-Con in a killer octave a while back to see what I could see. > >With one string, the pitch went up on the attack and stayed high for about > >1.5 seconds, then drifted down a bit. Adding the second string, the attack > >pitch height was the same, and the decal pitch was the same (as nearly as I > >could tell), but the dwell time at the higher pitch went to about a second. > >Adding the third string left the pitches the same again, but the high dwell > >fell to a little over a half second. No real measurement on the time > >durations, just tuner's relative time sense. This was with one of my > >boards, and I haven't gotten to try it on anything else, so there's nothing > >remotely informative here, though I was surprised at what I saw. > > I have no information to offer as to _why_ "unison coupling" exists, but > I thought I would chime in here that my observations match yours, Ron, > fairly closely. The phenomenon exists on many pianos. > > I describe it like this: > > The frequency of vibrating piano strings is not stable, but tends to > lower as the string continues to sound. > > In electronic music, the graphic representation of the changing > amplitude, frequency, or other measurable character of a tone is known as > the "envelope." > > My observation then is that strings sounding together have little or no > frequency that is not present when the strings are sounding singly. It > appears rather that the envelope, that is, the change in frequency of the > vibrating strings over time, is accelerated for some reason when the > strings sound together. In other words, the flatness observed when > strings sound together may just be because the strings get to the flat > part of the envelope faster, fast enough that the sharper part of the > envelope goes by fast enough that it can be missed. > > For what it is worth, an explanation for why this phenomenon was not > observed and described until just a few years ago might be that, if the > phenomenon occurs throughout the scale, as I believe it does, then, if > the temperament throughout the scale of the piano is tuned with single > strings, then the temperament of the piano with all strings of the > unisons sounding will simply be "shifted" slightly flat with few ill > effects to the temperament. > > It also is possible that the apparent frequency shift caused by unison > coupling is as small or smaller than the normal frequency shift caused by > loud and soft playing, perhaps making the effect negligible in practice. > > Kent Swafford ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/7a/85/dd/5c/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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