The Plate

[bases-loaded@juno.com]

Terry -

Sorry - I had intended to include that info and obviously forgot...

Shellac and "shellac wet" can be purchased from:

Homestead Finishing Products
216-631-5309
He is currently working on his website.

Make sure you ask for a catalog.  Jeff Jewitt owns this business and is
one of the most knowledgable finishing experts anywhere.  If you are
having problems of any kind with any of his products he will give you
technical assistance.

Mark Potter
bases-loaded@juno.com

On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:56:11 -0500 "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
writes:
> Thanks for the tip Mark. I can deal with alcohol. I had not used 
> shellac before. Do you have a phone number or web site for Homestead 
> Finishing. I did a search on internet, but no luck. Thanks.
> 
> Terry Farrell
> Piano Tuning & Service
> Tampa, Florida
> mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bases-loaded@juno.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: The Plate
> 
> 
> > Terry -
> >
> > Have you tried using shellac?  It is not water-based, but 
> denatured
> > alcohol is really not very objectionable.  Shellac will take the 
> powder
> > just fine, but does tend to dry very quickly - a little too 
> quickly to
> > keep a good wet "edge".  Contact Homestead Finishing for their 
> product
> > called "Shellac-Wet", which is essentially a flow-out additive for
> > shellac.  You can also order the shellac from them in flake form; 
> I would
> > recommend the white shellac or dewaxed extra pale for this 
> application,
> > spraying a couple passes using a 1 - 1 1/2 lb. cut.  After app. 2 
> hours
> > dry time, lightly scuff and then you could top coat with Enduro's 
> clear
> > poly, which is what you are currently using, yes?
> >
> > One caveat.... when top coating with ANY poly over shellac, it 
> MUST  BE
> > DEWAXED SHELLAC, or you will have serious craters!  Both of the 
> above
> > grades I mentioned above are dewaxed.  I have sprayed many kinds 
> of poly
> > over dewaxed shellac literally hundreds of times with no adhesion
> > problems whatsoever.
> >
> > Mark Potter
> > bases-loaded@juno.com
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:23:56 -0500 "Farrell" 
> <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> > writes:
> > > I had been using bronze powder mixed in clear water-base
> > > polyurethane. I
> > > tried, tried, & tried. It just gets too wierd. I finally got a
> > > couple of
> > > pretty good coats on just to watch it turn kinda darker 
> (somewhat
> > > black) in
> > > some areas after several days. I guess the metal must react with 
> the
> > > water
> > > in the water-base & oxidize. I can't stand the thought of 
> spraying
> > > solvent-based laquer. I also tried a can of spray paint - BAD, 
> never
> > > again.
> > > I'm still looking for something that doesn't stink and I don't 
> have
> > > to use
> > > nasty solvents to clean up with.
> > >
> > > Terry Farrell
> > > Piano Tuning & Service
> > > Tampa, Florida
> > > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <bases-loaded@juno.com>
> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 7:52 PM
> > > Subject: Re: The Plate
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you have spray equipment, spray the plate with bronze 
> powder
> > > suspended
> > > > in lacquer.  If there are fish eyes from contaminants, spray 
> at
> > > least one
> > > > pass of a 1 lb. cut of shellac over the problem area before 
> top
> > > coating
> > > > with the bronze colored lacquer.  Top the color coats with 1-2
> > > coats of
> > > > clear lacquer.  I like satin.
> > > >
> > > > If using spray cans, you may have better luck with a 'metallic
> > > bronze' or
> > > > 'metallic gold' enamel.  The lacquer in retail spray cans is
> > > second rate,
> > > > at best.  Again, shellac will provide a great barrier coat 
> should
> > > > adhesion problems from contaminants be present.
> > > >
> > > > Mark Potter
> > > > bases-loaded@juno.com
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:48:31 -0500 "Farrell"
> > > <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> > > > writes:
> > > > > When you find out what to spray it with, let me know. If you
> > > need to
> > > > > know
> > > > > what not to spray it with, just drop me a note. I'm ready 
> for
> > > about
> > > > > my 10th
> > > > > coat of somethingorother on this plate - hopefully looking
> > > better
> > > > > than the
> > > > > last 9.
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry Farrell
> > > > > Piano Tuning & Service
> > > > > Tampa, Florida
> > > > > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Martin Dubow" <tuner@mediaone.net>
> > > > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 4:21 PM
> > > > > Subject: The Plate
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Now that I've got all the strings off this piano, I'd like 
> to
> > > > > improve
> > > > > > the appearance
> > > > > > of the plate. What should I use to clean it with?  If I 
> decide
> > > to
> > > > > spray
> > > > > > it, what do I spray
> > > > > > it with? Is there a gold paint that comes in a spray can?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Martin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>