Ola writes: <<"and answer what he really writes. He has very many well written technical posts and is also intrested in discussing other things than HT.">> Ola; Before breaching the main topic let me say that while you may not reside in the U.S. you are not a "foreigner" on this list. The list is open and available to all and is not a place for "foreigners" because we are all technicians whatever our nationality. ------------------------------------ There have been many instances of list respondents saying that Mr. Bremmers posts can and do contain items of information of great value...some of those same posts also decry his amazing propensity for personal attacks. In the current instance let us look at what happened, OK? Horace Greely posted to the list: <<"Friends, It is with some sadness that I pass along news of the death of Victor Borge. Those of us who were privileged to work with him knew him as an underrated musician and performer. More importantly, he was a consummate gentleman and citizen of the world.">> Now Horace said he was "passing along" not 'announcing a scoop' or sharing 'exclusive information'. I don't know why Horace posted that note but I would imagine that it has something to do with Victor Borge being 'among' the favorite well known performers to have worked with as noted many times on this list by many techs not just Horace or Mr. Bremmer. Mr. Borge was indeed a citizen of the world and we shall all miss him. How Mr. bremmer got from there to his vitriol filled post in response to Horace is anyones guess I suppose, but as Ed noted the evidence for building a supposition is in the archives. Looking at Mr. Bremmers post and what "what he really writes", as you say, can be illustrative, for instance: Had Mr. Bremmer said, which he did, <<"He said the same words of the Equal Beating Victorian Temperament I used as many have, "I liked it. Whatever you're doing, keep it up".>> and left it at that I doubt any would have responded to him.....but he didn't leave it at that he continued with: <<"This, of course quite contrary to the preaching and blatantly obscene admonishment against doing what I do and have done so successfully now for an entire nine years which was directed at me by the author of this post.">> In this personal attack, and it can only be judged such, there is no "professional content", no "technical" content and certainly nothing worth archiving. Indeed is just the continuation of a 'personal' vendetta over something that was written over two years ago. OK perhaps this is not toooooawfully bad and 'could' be overlooked but not content to leave it there Mr. Bremmer continued with: <<"It seems fitting that those words were chosen from the gutter rather than from some philosopher. And that's why I chose to ignore them and point out how foolishly wrong those gratuitous remarks were.">> Here Mr. Bremmer continues his 'personal' attack even while he 'claims' to "ignore" the reason for it. Still not satisfied Mr. Bremmer continued: <<"Sorry to bring this up on Christmas Eve, folks, but some people's ill chosen words are not easily forgotten. The news of Victor Borge's passing is, of course, sad but it is in the general media.">> Here he intimates that some "nebulous" <<"ill chosen words">> were responsible for his current response. Although as I have already mentioned those words, whatever their actual content, were written two years ago. Still not satified Mr. Bremmer continued with: <<"My first thought at seeing who it was who brought it up as a topic to this List as "...Those of us who were privileged to work with him knew him..." was just another attempt at name dropping posturing from a person who is always long on baloney and short on contributions of any substance.">> This can be viewed no other way but as a 'direct' personal attack on Horace. While Mr. Bremmer will no doubt revel in the attention his miscreant behavior will garner, it adds nothing to the list in either a "technical" nor a "professional" manner. This entirely in oppsoition to his fairly well recieved apology for past posts of this same ilk and his promise to "try" and keep his posts "professional" and "technical". While I am among the number who value Mr. Bremmers technical insights I am also among the number who abhor his penchant for personal attack, slander, use of mirepresentatioin and outright lies to bolster his point or position. Would that the same persons who chastized Maria for saying that a shitty little spinet was a "shitty" little spinet would put the same energy into chastising Mr. Bremmer for his agrandized personal grievances as illustrated so well by this attack on Horace. I personally find this much more reprehensible than using a very descriptive term for a supposedly sad example of the piano makers art. Just check the archives Ola, it is all in there and not disputable by any. Jim Bryant (FL)
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