Not again! (OT)

[Clyde Hollinger]

Johan,

Perhaps you have not been on this list long enough to understand why such animosity rears its ugly head.  But I think you have a very good point.

Friends, I basically agree with Johan's plea for civility.  I would like to see all name calling and personal putdowns eliminated from this list.  One can always say "I strongly disagree" or "that is not the way I understand it" or "my information/experience should show that to be incorrect."  Can peace in the world be evident right here if even in a small way?  It is not my intent to come to the defense of any one person.  We can all improve in our communications.

In my opinion it is always wise to ask, "How would I feel if others responded to me the way I respond to others?"  The Golden Rule is still a great maxim:  Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

Regards,
Clyde Hollinger

Johan Ola Andersson wrote:

> I don't expect anybody having backbone to reply to this.
>
> On this list where anybody is arguing about anything how is it that everybody can talk badly about Mr. Bremmer but you can't let him answer for himself? Is he some kind of Judas just because he got new ideas and is clever? I don't like anybody attacking anybody but even Bill Bremmer has feelings and I can't remember seeing posts like this saying the opposite: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't attack this man. But it seems legal to kick this guy. Give Bill the same treatment as anybody else on this list. That treatment can be hard enough with Maria fresch in my memory. Bill Bremmer is to valuble to this list and the PTG organisation to be treated or talked about as an animal. And again I don't like any attacking on anybody. The funny thing is though that I as a foreigner and having problems reading generally I very well understand Bill Bremmer's well written English I can't understand why it's so hard for english speaking people to understand it. My point is it seems that people don!
> 't read his post and answer what he really writes. He has very many well written technical posts and is also intrested in discussing other things than HT. My wild guess is that about ten years he will be very importent for the next generation of tuners.
>
> Sometimes you have to take a fight for making a change even if you have to make yourself unpopular. Bill Bremmer gives this list more coulors and he's a brilliant guy. OK he might have a bad temper sometimes but alot of persons have and what so special when he has it?  I don't know but I sometimes wonder why you answer this guy like he was stupid when he is not. Is it because he's right? I  _don't_ know but It can look like that way when you read the posts below.
>
> What if he been thrue some hard times in his private life like _others_ seems to have, who knows? Maybe you could give him a little support? Is there any heart here?
>
> It's still Christmas
>
> Ola Andersson
>
> > At 08:24 AM 12/26/2000 -0800, you wrote:
> > >Dear list:
> > >
> > >Please...if anyone feels it absolutely necessary to reply to Mr. Bremer's
> > >latest diatribe, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do so privately to Mr. Bremer, and
> > >NOT on list.
> > >
> > >Ed Carwithen
> > >John Day, OR
> >
> > What's the matter, Ed? You don't like watching pianotech's pet thug in action?
> >
> > Once again, I would like to point out that we would be much better off
> > with some allowance for a moderated list --- if not fully moderated, at
> > least with some checks on the excessive volume and on one particular
> > guy who thinks he owns the place.
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >