Hi Clyde You are talking about my nightmare. Decreases with humidity, increases with the lack of. Not being scientific by nature or having substantiated proof with measurements, hydroscopic readings and all that jazz, I can only give you my thoughts and observations. During the humid periods in the tropics the moisture gets everywhere. Not only does it cause the wood to swell it also causes felt to swell even further. Hammer felts pop of the woods, dampers swell etc. But what you asked is this, The backtouch felt swells thus decreasing the lost motion, the hammer butt felt and leather both swell further decreasing lost motion, the keys also swell, the accumulation of this swelling can and does cause a change in motion equivalent up to 4mm in hammer / string travel. Yes, I have been caught on the same problem on many occasion. The main problem is that I think that we are trying too hard to make the piano feel just right and our pride won't let us take the humidity factor into consideration as when we regulate, we want the piano right at that time, not three, six months later. In a non controlled environment in Darwin (where the humidity varies from 30% to 95%, the variation is 4mm in hammer travel. If I fine regulate the key capstains in the dry (35% to 40%) to just a 'wink' in a Yamaha U1 (the most stable) the variation is about 2mm in hammer travel in the wet (75% to 95%) (The hammers are proud of the hammer rest by 1.5mm.) In an European or other piano the variation will be up to 4mm. The reason for the difference between the pianos are, I believe, the type of felt used in the back touch. Yamaha backtouch felt in not wool. Thus I guess that I have to say that the non wool felts do not swell with humidity as much (if at all) as does the woollen backtouch felt. The smaller variation in the Yamaha's variation to me means that swelling is still a factor in the key, wippen / capstain felt & hammer butt felt and leather. But Clyde, you are not going to know which piano is going to do what or by how much. Sometimes it just has to take two goes to get an acceptable standard, or, when the humidity is low, leave it loose. If the humidity is high, make it tight. But also remember, in an upright, it takes about 3 weeks for the humidity to have the effects. The reverse of course is also true. I completely regulated a piano in the wet in Darwin to total specs., the customer took the piano to Alice Springs (humidity drops to 10%) and not only was every screw loose, hammers chattering on the strings, there was 2mm of lost motion to take up on the capstain to wippen. Enough ? Regards Tony Caught ICPTG Australia caute@optusnet.com.au Clyde Hollinger Wrote, > Friends, > > What happens to lost motion, particularly in spinets and consoles, when > the humidity changes? When does it increase or decrease, and why? I > should know by now, but I don't, and I did run into trouble once by > doing it at the wrong time. Since things seem pretty quiet on the list > at the moment I thought this might be a good time to ask. (Don't talk > to me about humidity control; I already know.) > > Regards, > Clyde > >
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