Pin Torque minimum standard?

[BSimon999@AOL.COM]

 stan@pianoexperts.mb.ca writes:

<<  I have established 50 in/lbs in the counterclockwise direction as the 
minimum standard
for pin torque .  Below this and repair is recommended to the client.  
(anyone care to comment on this standard?)         Stan Kroeker >>

I think 50 inch pounds as a minimum standard is far too high and is unfair to 
customers who, had they called another tuner, might not even have been 
apprised of a "problem" needing repair. 

I feel most pianos will easily stay in tune at the 50 in/lbs reading, or 40 
in/lbs, or 30 in/lbs. I have many customers whose pianos stay in tune at 20 
in/lbs, but at 20 they are on the edge of the cliff. I do not tune pianos 
with torque readings of below 15 inch pounds.  Very rarely, due to a 
particular piano's  friction points and type of player (how lightly they play 
), I have seen pianos that were stable in the 12-15 inch/pound range, but 
never below that.

Bill Simon