QUERY: gilding a plate

[Piano Services Tech Dept]

Richard,

I agree with you that you must take proper precautions when using Imron, but
then you should always have a full face respirator and proper ventilation
for any chemical that is used. Only a fool would stick his nose in a can of
lacquer thinner and inhale deeply. We use Imron for the hard finish it gives
as well as the "wet" look it retains. I've tried and seen finishes applied
by "can" and they all seem to fade after five years, but then I haven't used
them all. Imron as you know will retain that freshly sprayed look after many
many years. We spray about 3 plates per month and have had excellent
results. But you're right always use precautions.

Regards,

Ed Mashburn,RPT


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Oliver Snelson" <rsnelson@dave-world.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: QUERY: gilding a plate


> I think I'm correct, Imron can be deadly. Bad idea.  You should wear a
> full body suit and have an outside air supply to a full hood. Why would
> you want to deal with this very unfriendly product for painting a piano
> plate. I've painted airplanes with it and know of a least two people
> that were killed by the toxic fumes from it. Use caution!  I blacked out
> once from it and have never used it again.
> Richard
>
> Piano Services Tech Dept wrote:
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > We use Imron for our plate gilding. It is a two part polyurethane
developed
> > by Dupont for the airline industry. It was the only paint that would not
> > come off the jets at the high rate of speed they fly. We like it because
the
> > gold pigment sinks to the bottom and a clear coat floats to the top.
This
> > gives plate a "wet" look. It is a very hard finish and can be applied in
a
> > single process. We have it made up in our particular style of gold  at a
> > automotive paint store. No powders to deal with.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Ed Mashburn,RPT
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul" <tunenbww@clear.lakes.com>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: QUERY: gilding a plate
> >
> > > Mark and list
> > >
> > > Has any one tried shellac as the medium for spraying bronzing powders
> > rather
> > > than lacquer? As a rule, I seal the old finish on the plate with
shellac,
> > > then proceed with Behlen's Piano Gold and lacquer top coats. I'd like
to
> > > short cut the process and still get a good looking job without
problems
> > like
> > > the bronzing powder turning dark or green after a time.
> > >
> > > Paul Chick
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <bases-loaded@juno.com>
> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 10:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: QUERY: gilding a plate
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:55:05 -0400 Jon Page <jonpage@mediaone.net>
> > > > writes:
> > > > >> >What sort of preparation work is done?
> > > > >
> > > > >   Clean, clean, clean. Spot fill, sand. Spot fill, sand
> > > > >
> > > > > >What type of finish is applied?
> > > > >
> > > > > Lacquer
> > > > >
> > > > > >What materials?
> > > > >
> > > > > Lacquer w/ bronzing powder. S&S color is the colour du jour
> > > > >
> > > > > >What are good sources for materials?  Etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mohawk for lacquer,  Steinway for the powder
> > > >
> > > > The S&S bronze powder can be purchased from Walter Wurdack, Inc for
a
> > > > fraction of the cost that S&S charges.  A pound is less than $20.
As I
> > > > recall, that was about what 4 oz cost at S$S.
> > > >
> > > > Call: Walter Wurdack @  (314) 351-6600.  Located in St. Louis.
> > > >
> > > > Mark Potter
> > > > bases-loaded@juno.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>