<There are some tests for 4ths and 5ths--look in Jorgensen _Tuning_ book, or I can write about those later.> Thanks John, I have noticed the problem with muting material, especially while doing pitch raises. I do not have the Jorgensen book. I have the White book which gives examples of tests.....Are they the same, or am I missing out? Would you recommend my purchasing the Jorgensen book? <Get Jim Coleman Sr's thingee.....> Thanks, David. I do have the thingee. And to the others who have responded......Kent, Larry, Newton, Wally, and Phil (hope I didn't omit anyone...) I have just inherited a very good Baldwin with like-new strings. As soon as I can get it moved, it will become my temperament practice instrument. Perhaps it will afford me just the right amount of advantage over the old upright to enable me to break through this barrier. I will report on my success with all the suggestions. Tom Robinson East Tennessee
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