A Cyber ears digression

Richard Brekne richardb@c2i.net
Sun, 02 May 1999 09:48:06 +0200


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adkpiano wrote:

> Hi ListI'm having a late night browse tonight and found a page perhaps
> worth a look to all those considering putting together the ultimate
> ETD. I guess any info is at least worth a look.Try "Musical Sound
> Modelling With Sinusoids Plus Noise" - WOW !!, Pass the sleeping pills
> darling....they're in my anorak.A prize will be awarded to those able
> to summarise in 10 words or less. Isn't "Phase spectra Computation"
> something to do with pregnancy
> testing. http://www.iua.upf.es/~sms/docs/msm/
* The Deterministic plus Stochastic Model
* General Diagram of the Analysis/Synthesis Process
* Magnitude and Phase Spectra Computation
* Peak Detection
* Pitch Detection
* Peak Continuation
* Stochastic Analysis
* Deterministic Subtraction
* Stochastic Approximation
* Representation of the Analysis Data
* Modifications of the Analysis Data
* Deterministic Synthesis
* Stochastic Synthesis  Alan King Mpta >Piano Tech>Scotland
>
> adkpiano@breathemail.net

 Hi Alan. Finnally got time to look at this a bit closer. The basic jist
of all this is "how to synthesize sounds" so that they closely represent
the origionals. This is accomplished by picking apart what a musical
sound is, sampling an instrument and subjecting it to analysis based on
the components arrived at, and then using this information to re-create
the sound synthetically. Lots of err.. shall we say "beyond high school
math" here. But you dont need that to understand the article in general
terms. I am not sure how this all applies to the posts origional
questions, but the article does point out the need for a long sustained
and clear "sound" for the purposes of sampling in regards to accurate
measuring of partials. This would support what John Coleman and others
have written to me about the drawbacks of my (and obvioiusly others
before me) idea for a "beat reader" based on measureing of partials. I
still am in doubt as to how much this problem is a matter of techology /
techniques. Another approach to "beat reading" might be to amplify a say
20 cent frequency range (as exclusively as possible) and then
electronically measure and count the amplitude variations beats create.
For example say one wanted to measure the 4:2 of c3 c4. Since one can
expect this to be around 522 hz we could amplify  the range of 510 to
530. This would bring "forward" the beating in this range between c3 and
c4. Once thats done we could then measure the difference between the two
strings, or the amount of beating by counting the amount of "peaks" per
second in the "volume" of the sound. Might be worth a try to see if it
could be made functional, and usefull.

Richard Brekne

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