Factory Reconditioned Yamahas ?

[Newton Hunt]

> honest misunderstanding.

In sales there is no such thing.

While tuning on sales floors I listened to the unadulterated bull
feces fostered upon the unsuspecting public by sales 'persons'.  

I have carefully listened to the 'blue verbiage' at car lots.

This has made me cynical about the sales 'jaw flapping' at stores
where I wanted to buy air conditioners, refrigerators, furniture,
etc., etc.

Absolutely frightening.

My mother always said I would go to hell as soon for lying as for
stealing.  I have difficulty distinguishing one from the other in
sales situations.

Such some Saturday morning observations.

		Newton

Phil_Glenn@yca.CCMAIL.compuserve.com wrote:
> 
>      The Japanese culture tends to think that a piano is worn out after 10
>      years, just as automobiles are used up after 50,000 miles. That is why
>      the used piano market is not very good in Asia, and so many are
>      exported. With their recent economic down turn, I would expect
>      attitudes to shift.
>      Unless things have changed since I worked at Yamaha, and was in
>      Hamamatsu, there is no such thing as a Yamaha factory rebuilt piano.
>      This is either a scam by importers, or an honest misunderstanding.
>      By the way... any of these so called rebuilds that I ever saw didn't
>      look rebuilt at all.
> 
>      Phil Glenn RPT
>      YCA
> 
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> Hi Jon,
>          Sounds very suspicious to me, many of the gray market pianos were
> taken in on trade by factory stores, and sold to wholesalers that
> specialize to moving used product in bulk. These people concentrate on
> cosmetics and not function. I am off to the factory on the 20th for two
> weeks of education, and a complete tour of the facilities, no doubt I will
> try to obtain the first hand story at the the whole grey market issue.
> One grey market supplier here in Canada is purchasing, so say reconditioned
> units, good cosmetic job, hammers reshaped, but the key bushings told
> another story.
> Just be carefull, and check with Yamaha USA.
> Regards Roger
> 
> 
> 
> At 06:58 PM 3/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >List,
> >I have been requested to look at a few pianos in a dealer's showroom. The
> >person hiring me said  that one is a 'Factory  Reconditioned Yamaha" grand.
> >I didn't know there was such a thing. Did my client misunderstand or is the
> >dealer feeding her a line ?
> >
> >Promptness counts as I am scheduled to meet her at 1pm tomorrow (3/12).
> >
> >It's always usefull to have the low-down when approaching situations like
> >this.
> >
> >Thanks, what a resource ! And some techs still insist on being computer free.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Jon Page
> >Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass. (jpage@capecod.net)
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> Roger Jolly
> Balwin Yamaha Piano Centres.
> Saskatoon/Regina.
> Canada.