John, Sounds like at some point in time the bass pins have been driven in too far due to looseness. Three repairs 1. restring all strings (too costly?) 2. remove pin of broken strings and use five minute epoxy replace pin and pull up to pitch. Be careful not to drive the pin in too far so that you have the same problem as you had. 3. lower the pitch of the string so that you can remove the string, remove the string and back out the pin three full turns. With the piano on the tipper use thin CA glue and accelerator. Restring and tune. Tap in pin if the coil is too far out. Joe Goss Always on the level and now well traveled! The tool is finally done. Will show at KC ---------- From: John M. Formsma <jformsma@dixie-net.com> To: PianoTech <pianotech@ptg.org> Subject: Wurlitzer problem Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 8:47 PM Greetings, List! I am a relatively new subscriber, and a first-time poster, so I'll give a brief bio before my questions. My name is John Formsma, and I live in Blue Mountain, MS. I have been tuning pianos part-time for several years, and have begun to tune full-time since I have taken over my father's piano tuning business. My father passed away this January. I am somewhat of a neophyte with certain repair and troubleshooting procedures, and this list has given me some good information which will be very useful in the future. This particular problem may have been discussed earlier, and I can refer to the archives if that is the case. The last several Wurlitzer consoles I have tuned have had a common problem with bass strings breaking. These pianos are all in the 20-35 year-old range, and I have had from one to four strings break on each piano that I have tuned. Each string has broken at the coil on the tuning pin. >From what I surmise with my limited technical knowledge, there is too much of an angle from where the string leaves the tuning pin to where the strings pass over the plate, which "forces" the string to slightly wind itself over the coil. The only thing I can figure is that there is a stress formed at the point at which the string begins to wind over the coil which eventually causes breakage because the string has been weakened at that point due to repeated tunings. I have also noticed that the bass bridge pins for the broken strings were loose every time. I suspect a correlation, but am not sure what it would be. I have repaired the loose bridge pins with epoxy, and replaced the strings, but wonder if there is a way to avoid this problem. Is this a design flaw with a certain vintage Wurlitzer? Has anyone else had this trouble? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, John Formsma
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