Hi Del, The piano in question is a Baldwin scale "E", which is pretty similar in scale to the "R" grand. According to my Baldwin shop manual, Baldwin lists scales for Accu-just and Accu-set hitch pin pianos, and scales for traditional pianos. The numbers for the E scale and non-AJ R scale are fairly close, the E scale incorporates more 1/2 size wire changes in the lower tenor over more unisons. The R scale for both types of hitch pin arrangement are virtually identical, with only 3 deviations in number of unisons for identical wire sizes throughout. I don't think that wire size has much to do with determining what type of hitch pin layout is used. Nor do I think that speaking lengths or bridge placement varies greatly between the above models. The plate structure isn't greatly different between these pianos either. So is hitch pin layout is the critical factor in deciding whether or not a piano can withstand retrofitting to adjustable-type hitch pins? I quickly took some micrometer readings from a new R grand with AJ hitch pins on the sales floor and a Wurlitzer (Samick) C173 5'8" with a traditional HP layout for comparison: Average hitch pin diameter: Baldwin R = .223" Wurlitzer C173 = .168" Average hitch pin spacing: Baldwin R = Staggered .3 - .5" apart, some non-staggered, alternating distances apart, pins no closer than 1" from lip of plate Wurlitzer C173 = .35" apart in treble in even sections of 12 - 16 pins in a curving row, with a .75" set back on the next row. Bass alternately staggered .5" apart and .5" offset Pins no closer than 1.75" from lip of plate Plate thickness (at lip of plate, adjacent to bridge) Baldwin R : treble .362" mid-tenor .423" bottom tenor .366" Wurlitzer C173 treble: .4" mid-tenor .415" bottom tenor .435" Hitch Pin Height Baldwin R: .467- .545" throughout Wurlitzer C173 .415 - .423" throughout (holes drilled straight and pins bent back. Pin height is total length of pin, not actual height off of plate) Height of string above plate Baldwin R top treble .313" to .378" treble .315" to .202" tenor .110" to .271" bass .186" to .229" The top section strings are definitely above the 2/3 mark on the hitch pins, the rest of the strings are below the 1/3 mark. Angle to the bridge is minimal. Wurlitzer C173 flush to plate at hitch pin, however the string angles steeply up and over an aliquot bar on the plate and continues to the bridge. The angle of deflection of the string leaving the hitch pin is significantly sharper than the string leaving the Baldwin hitch pin. So what the heck do all these numbers mean? 1) Baldwin hitch pins are not significantly bigger than other hitch pins .223" compared to .168". You can buy smaller diameter pins than the type Baldwin uses if you need to. 2) The plate thickness and hitch pin spacing are thinner and closer on the R grand than on the Wurlitzer. Does that mean that the Wurlitzer would be a good candidate for adjustable pins? The holes are drilled straight and spaced farther apart than the Baldwin. What would influence you to replace a set of 'standard' hitch pins with adjustable, if these plate and hole measurements 'seemed' to meet or exceed what is currently used on new manufactured pianos, such as Baldwin or Charles R. Walter? Questions, questions... Rob Kiddell RPT atonal@telusplanet.net
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