Master Piano Tuner

[Gregory Torres]

Ralph,

I guess you answered some of my questions. But would you say that by being
tested by PTG and passing is better than just joining an organization such as
the one we are talking about?

Regards,
Greg Torres

Ralph Martin wrote:

> Hi Greg
> Most of the folk attended either a school or worked for a piano shop or
> factory or learned from another tech.
>
> The truth is...you DON'T know if the tech truly knows what he is doing....so
> testing , at least, solves part of that problem. The other organization
> simply assumes that the tech has to be adequate enough to have earned a
> living at his craft if he has been gainfully employed in the craft.
>
> While we all run across a hacker once in a while, for the most part I think
> most techs do a pretty fair job regardless of which organization they belong
> to or even IF they belong to an organization....otherwise, they don't seem
> to survive for very long.
>
> I don't know if this answers your questions or not??? If not..we'll try
> again.
>
> m best
> Ralph Martin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Torres <Tunapiana@adisfwb.com>
> To: pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Date: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Master Piano Tuner
>
> >Hi Ralph,
> >
> >Thanks for sharing that info. BTW, I didn't know that anyone could be a
> member
> >of PTG. Is this what they mean by "Associate" member?  Also, how does one
> prove
> >that they know what they are doing if they are not tested in some way? What
> is
> >considered as proof? What if they did not attend a school of piano
> technology?
> >As for me, I learned about 90% by hands on experience and the other 10%
> from
> >talking with other techs. Just wondering.
> >
> >Could you post some more info on this other organization?
> >
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Greg Torres
> >
> >
> >Ralph Martin wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Greg
> >> I should probably add my two cents on this subject since I am also a
> member
> >> of the MPT(master piano technicians of america) as well as being a member
> >> ofPTG.
> >>
> >> As you are well aware, anyone can be a member of PTG, whether a
> >> tuner/technician or not. Should you desire to be registered as a RPT, you
> >> must be tested by some members of your peers to see if you are able to
> >> conform to their requirements.
> >>
> >> The MPT, on the other hand do not have any novices in their organization.
> >> The members are not tested, but have to furnish proof of school training
> >> and/or apprenticeship plus a verifiable work history as a
> tuner/technician.
> >> The MPT also have a small magazine that is issued quarterly. It is not
> >> nearly as grand as the PTG, but,after all, their membership is limited by
> >> the very rule that excludes novices.
> >>
> >> I do not use the MPT designation after my name on this list simply out of
> >> courtesy since this is a PTG list.There are excellent and skilled
> >> technicians in both organizations and I have seen the opposite in both
> >> organizations.
> >>
> >> I have no personal bias for either organization...I enjoy them both.
> While I
> >> have no stats to back this up, I seem to notice that the members of the
> MPT
> >> seem to be older on the average than the members of the PTG(?)
> >>
> >> Ralph Martin
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gregory Torres <Tunapiana@adisfwb.com>
> >> To: pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >> Date: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 1:09 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Master Piano Tuner
> >>
> >> >John,
> >> >
> >> >I have heard that there are other organizations out there that try to
> carry
> >> >a status similar to the PTG except that there is no testing involved in
> >> >regards to determining ones qualifications. You simply send some money
> and
> >> >you become a "Master Technician". A tuner I know put this classification
> in
> >> >his yellow pages ad. He sent a modest sum (don't remember the exact
> amount
> >> >but it was under $100.00) & they sent a certificate stating he is now a
> >> >"Master Technician". With PTG you take various tests administered by
> some
> >> of
> >> >the most respected technicians in the field.
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Greg Torres
> >> >
> >> >John Ross wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> List,
> >> >> I would like to find out what this designation signifies.
> >> >> There is an ex member of the PTG who is using this designation after
> his
> >> >> name.
> >> >> Thanking you in advance.
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> John M. Ross
> >> >> PTG Assoc.
> >> >> Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> >