Also sprach Don Mannino: > > I am going to put some Protec in a small plastic bottle with some center > pins today, date the bottle, and put it on the shelf. Maybe in a year or > so it will tell me something. > Don and List: If the experiment is to tell you if Protek oxidizes copper/brass, you need to do a controlled experiment. It would be even better to put some finely divided, freshly cut metal into the Protek-- perhaps take a piece of brass stock, start drilling a hole in it (with an absolutely clean bit), throw away the first curl or two off the bit, and then take the rest of the absolutely clean uncontaminated metal shavings that come out of the hole, and put them in the Protek. Then take the piece of stock which has been exposed to the atmosphere for a while and put it in another jar of Protek. You also need another jar of the same composition as the first two with nothing in it but Protek. I think it at least as likely that what caused the green colour in the Protek is that a copper salt (copper sulphate, chromate, acetate, chlorate, chloride, all of which are green and all of which naturally form on surfaces containing copper and exposed to air or human sweat) which was present on the brass nozzle was soluble in the carrier solvent in the Protek. Colour which is not visible on the metal surface would be easily visible in solution. Your formal "null hypothesis" would be that the metal has no effect on the colour of the Protek. If either of the vials containing the metal showed a colour change, you would reject the null hypothesis and conclude that there is an effect. If both changed colour, you can conclude that the colour change is due to an effect of Protek upon brass. If only the sample containing the dirty metal changes colour, you can conclude that Protek is good for cleaning brass. Of course, in order to demonstrate that the result is not an accident, the experiment should be replicated--5 vials for each treatment would be adequate for some basic statistics. Tim Keenan Terrace BC
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