Hi folks, Thanks, Barrie, Mike and Willem, for your thoughts on part-time tuning. Willem, you wrote: "But that should not be a reason be left out of an organization that promotes the welfare of the profession." The stance of the PTA in Britain is that they would _not_ be promoting the welfare of the profession, if they admitted to the ranks persons of inferior ability, which would be the case, they say, with part-timers. Barrie, thanks for your comments. I owe you a letter, and will email personally soon. Sorry for delay. Respecting the I.M.I.T., I do know about that body. Actually, my reason for asking about the attitude shown to part-timers by the PTG as opposed to the British PTA was not that I'm desperate to join an organisation. What I'm interested to explore is the difference in attitude that I suspected between the USA and here, both to working practices and to training. I'm intersted with the aspect in view of what is most practical for getting pianos properly looked after in the 90's and beyond. Your comments have confirmed what I suspected about differences in attitude between there and here. When the PTA in Britain opened the conventions and classes to non-members for some years, that seemed to me a very positive step. I must say I learned a great deal from classes I took, and benefitted in other ways from happy association with many very experienced tuner/tecnicians. But the Association must serve the wishes of its members, and I think it was deemed impractical to continue the conventions in the same format, so they were scaled down, and closed to non-members. But I think the question needs to be addressed of what is the most positive way forward, recognising that there may be individuals with a keen interest who would like to learn to tune and repair pianos but who may not be in a position to take up a full-time 2-year course as a school-leaver might traditionally have done. (Or, even more traditionally, an apprenticeship. Highly unlikely now that piano makers and workshops hardly exist.) I wonder, related to all your comments disagreeing with the view of the PTA that part-timers can't maintain a good standard of tuning, if there is in fact any published evidence on this, one way or the other, or if it's all based on the perception/prejudice/supposition of some committee members somewhere? Does anyone know of any published studies on this? Why do you think the PTG has a different view from the PTA? Further comments welcome. Richard, may I as a relatively new member of the list and the second from Britain, welcome you as an even newer member, and the third from Britain (now in Holland, of course.) I'm sure you will find the list as stimulating (even Schimmelating) and enjoyable as I do. I visited Newark College some years ago, when i was looking into courses. Jim Bryant - I loved your quip about removing a rib to make a female piano! Actually, what sex are pianos? Male in French, at any rate. Just a thought. Best wishes all, David Boyce. David@bouncer.force9.net
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