Serge Harel wrote: > > > Dear M. Fandrich and list members > > I got an 10 years old S&S D in my shop to restring. > The crown is is 4mm at 50% of humidity. > And there is a lot of downbearing 3 to 4 degrees on the long bridge and > 2 degres at the E20 on the bass bridge to 0.5 degrees at the A1. > > Do you think it's excessive? > > This piano is one of the best concert grand in town. > > Serge Harel Serge, You don't say for sure, but I'm assuming that the string deflection angles are taken with the piano strung and at pitch. Also, I can't speculate on the sound of a piano I can't see and hear, but there has to be some penalty for having this much string loading on the soundboard. Let's assume that you have a piano string with a speaking length of 670 mm and a back scale length of 190 mm (this example is not taken from a Steinway D, but is a typical note taken from the middle of the tenor section a large piano) and let's assume that this string has a deflection over the bridge of 4.0 degrees. (This is the downbearing angle you say this piano has.) Now strike an imaginary line from the hitch pin (or back bearing bar) to the agraffe; i.e., a line passing through the bridge, and not over it. Now measure straight down from the top of the bridge to this imaginary line. The distance will be 10.3 mm. At 3.0 degrees deflection the distance will be 7.7 mm, at 2.0 degrees it will be 5.2 mm, and at 1.0 degree it will be 2.6 mm. If the soundboard on this piano actually does have a positive crown of 4.0 mm today, it sure won't for very long. It will be flat in just a few more years and will end up around minus 4.0 mm a few years after that due to the extremely high downforce of the strings against the bridge. No soundboard can stand that much stress for long without giving up in dismay. Yes, I'd say that much string deflection is excessive. At this point in the scale 2.0 degrees would be excessive. Eventually even 2.0 degrees would probably drive the board into a reverse crown. If this piano were in my shop, I'd want the answers to a couple of questions: 1) Why is the piano going to be restrung? 2) Are you sure you've correctly measured string deflection? 3) Are there any clues as to why the string deflection is so high? 4) Has any major work been done to the piano since it left the factory? 5) Is there any evidence that the nosebolts have been used to "adjust" the downbearing? 6) What does the surface of the soundboard look like? Has there been any damage to the soundboard as a result of having this much pressure on it to date? Well, you get the idea. Yes, I'd suggest decreasing the string deflection just a bit. Good luck! ddf
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