I use carbon paper, only in the areas that are high (where the plate rocks) you can change the location of the carbon paper every time. Read your marks carefully and patiently. Also pay attention to the fit on the surface under the tuning pins that is never flat. Sometimes much thoughtful reduction is needed there (sometimes adding and redudcing a layer of veneer at the right location is appropriate).If the block is flexed into contact on this area the fit the at the flange changes and vice versa too (did I spell that wrong--I never wrote vice versa before). I also sometimes use a graphite brush on solution in addition to the carbon paper or just lightly fine sanding whatever is on the flange already can sometimes re-activate what was there. I might spend many hours (4-8??) doing this fitting. Jonathan Moberg Moberg Piano Sales & Service 414-962-2227 ________________________________ From: "caut-request at ptg.org" <caut-request at ptg.org> To: caut at ptg.org Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:24 PM Subject: CAUT Digest, Vol 44, Issue 13 ----- Forwarded Message ----- Send CAUT mailing list submissions to caut at ptg.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to caut-request at ptg.org You can reach the person managing the list at caut-owner at ptg.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CAUT digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Fwd: Plate coating for fitting pinblocks (Greg Newell) 2. Re: Fwd: Plate coating for fitting pinblocks (Dale Erwin) Try Petroleum jelly instead of water. From:caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Kidwell, Ted W Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:08 PM To: caut at ptg.org Subject: Re: [CAUT] Fwd: Plate coating for fitting pinblocks I just fitted a block last week and used the method taught by Christian Bolduc. I mixed a thick slurry of red carpenters chalk and water. I kept it as thick as possible that could be brushed. I painted it on the plate pretty thick and let it completely dry before tapping the block in. It is a bit gloppy but that does not matter. The tapping will knock it down. I did have to reapply in some areas once just as I was at the end of the process. The only downside is that I spent about half an hour cleaning the plate afterwards since the slurry drips down onto the top of the plate. It is easy to clean off though. Ted Kidwell, RPT California State University, Sacramento Capistrano Hall, rm. 153 6000 J Street Sacramento, CA 95819-6015 916.278.6737 From:caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Alan Eder Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:09 AM To: caut at ptg.org Subject: [CAUT] Fwd: Plate coating for fitting pinblocks List, This request for input just in from someone who does not normally monitor this list. Please respond on-list, and I will forward to him. Many thanks, Alan Eder Richard Davenport writes: Any thoughts about what coating is most effective (leaves the best mark and lasts the longest between applications) on the plate flange when fitting a pinblock. I've used carpenters blue chalk and black carpenter's crayons and they're both a mess to use and have to be reapplied frequently. There has to be something that lasts longer and is easier to apply. Thanks Richard Davenport Tools www.rcdavenport.com Hi Greg I wouldn't recommend puttin that on a pinblock/wood. I'd not risk it creeping like oil Dale Erwin R.P.T. Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc. Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos CSUS www.Erwinspiano.com Phone: 209-577-8397 -----Original Message----- From: Greg Newell <gnewell at ameritech.net> To: caut <caut at ptg.org> Sent: Sat, Jun 23, 2012 6:09 pm Subject: Re: [CAUT] Fwd: Plate coating for fitting pinblocks Try Petroleum jelly instead of water. From:caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Kidwell, Ted W Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:08 PM To: caut at ptg.org Subject: Re: [CAUT] Fwd: Plate coating for fitting pinblocks I just fitted a block last week and used the method taught by Christian Bolduc. I mixed a thick slurry of red carpenters chalk and water. I kept it as thick as possible that could be brushed. I painted it on the plate pretty thick and let it completely dry before tapping the block in. It is a bit gloppy but that does not matter. The tapping will knock it down. I did have to reapply in some areas once just as I was at the end of the process. The only downside is that I spent about half an hour cleaning the plate afterwards since the slurry drips down onto the top of the plate. It is easy to clean off though. Ted Kidwell, RPT California State University, Sacramento Capistrano Hall, rm. 153 6000 J Street Sacramento, CA 95819-6015 916.278.6737 From:caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Alan Eder Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:09 AM To: caut at ptg.org Subject: [CAUT] Fwd: Plate coating for fitting pinblocks List, This request for input just in from someone who does not normally monitor this list. Please respond on-list, and I will forward to him. Many thanks, Alan Eder Richard Davenport writes: Any thoughts about what coating is most effective (leaves the best mark and lasts the longest between applications) on the plate flange when fitting a pinblock. I've used carpenters blue chalk and black carpenter's crayons and they're both a mess to use and have to be reapplied frequently. There has to be something that lasts longer and is easier to apply. Thanks Richard Davenport Tools www.rcdavenport.com _______________________________________________ CAUT mailing list CAUT at ptg.org https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/20120623/45f07fd2/attachment-0001.htm>
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