[CAUT] Mythbusters

David Ilvedson ilvey at sbcglobal.net
Mon Mar 8 15:32:09 MST 2010


God...that sounds like a nightmare!   Talk about killing the Golden Goose.   Jeez...keep the differences...I see a lot of German factory workers walking.   Soon we'll be able to complain about both pianos... '-[

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Fred Sturm" <fssturm at unm.edu>
To: caut at ptg.org
Received: 3/8/2010 11:37:40 AM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Mythbusters


>Word in NYC a couple years ago was that the belly mounted system of  
>Hamburg was very much under consideration, and that the Steinway  
>basement guys were lobbying very strongly against, because of what  
>they considered the relative ease of service for all elements taken as  
>a whole (especially ability to pull underlevers much more easily). But  
>Hamburg will probably prevail. There is no question that they are  
>working seriously on consolidating manufacture (as in NY Steinway  
>producing all action parts, Kelly producing all plates, Kluge  
>producing all keyboards) and eliminating differences in design and  
>production where possible. Which raises lots of questions, as, for  
>instance, what to do about hammers. The NYC plant has invested a lot  
>in hammer manufacture over the last several years. I'm sure they would  
>love to produce all hammers there, but the different philosophies (and  
>sonic results) each have their passionate proponents. So that's not  
>likely very soon.
>	But things like sostenuto and keyframe glides are likely to be  
>consistent fairly soon, or that is my strong impression from various  
>conversations. With a Hamburg guy now running the show, it may happen  
>faster.
>Regards,
>Fred Sturm
>University of New Mexico
>fssturm at unm.edu

>On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Greg Granoff wrote:

>> This just in--- at the Pacific NW and Western Regional conference  
>> just ended
>> in Bellevue Washington, Ulrich Gerhart of UK Steinway operations was  
>> asked
>> during his day long concert prep demo about that (sost rod and  
>> abandoning
>> the NY mounting style at long last) and his answer was a cryptic "stay
>> tuned".........
>>
>> Greg Granoff
>> HSU
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf  
>> Of Ron
>> Nossaman
>> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 10:08 AM
>> To: caut at ptg.org
>> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Mythbusters
>>
>> reggaepass at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Seeing these two points consecutively begs another question: Whoever
>>> thought up mounting the sostenuto rod on the action brackets; if it's
>>> such a great idea, why don't others do it (including Steinways made  
>>> in
>>> Hamburg);
>>
>> An excellent question. Why is everyone so eager to copy tuned
>> duplexes, but not an action mounted sostenuto - including...?
>>
>>
>> and there plans to unify sos. rod location between the two
>>> Steinway factories?
>>
>> Each is quite willing for the other to follow their superior
>> example. <G>
>> Ron N
>>






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