[CAUT] beginning torque

Bob Hull hullfam5 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 29 15:09:07 MDT 2010


I had tried 1780 rpm as opposed to 2340 (that was the next slower choice) and 
for some reason I got less torque from it. I'll try even slower since you said 
you used 1250 rpm and see what that does.    

Bob


----- Original Message ----
From: Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net>
To: caut at ptg.org
Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 11:30:24 AM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] beginning torque

Bob Hull wrote:
> For drilling pin blocks, I am re-evaluating the drill bit size and procedure 
>that I have been using.   The last few blocks I have done were composite blocks 
>multi-lam with 9 mm delignit cap.   I am double drilling with 1/4" then an F bit 
>at about 2340 spindle speed, usually yields about 160 in. lbs. for the sample 
>pins that I try in a scrap piece of the block. I would like to get about 180 but 
>I can't get that with the F bit.    By the time I get coils just right, chip and 
>tune for a year, the torque is not as high as I would like.      I have a block 
>in the works now (already drilled the 1/4" hole)  and I am going to get a 6.5. 
>mm bit today and try that on a sample.  I got a new drill press after my last 
>one seemed to have too much slop in the quill  but the repair people said it was 
>within specs.  I just got a table top delta.  I am keeping the humidity in the 
>shop now in the low 40's.  (The block itself stays in a 35 % rh environment when 
>not being worked on.)
> 
> What beginning torque do you like to see?   How much do you expect it to drop 
>in the initial stages?    
>

Hi Bob,
I drill 1/4", and 6.8mm at 1250rpm and get in the 160-170 range. A year later, 
they're in the 150-160 range, or thereabouts. My old radial drill press has 
plenty of quill slop, and I don't see that making a bit of difference. I don't 
expect going 0.03mm smaller on the bit will make the difference you're looking 
for either.

It's been a while, so I've attached a spreadsheet with data supplied by Mike 
McCoy. Note that torque is material dependent to a certain minimum hole size, 
and a smaller hole doesn't appreciably affect torque readings. Looks to me that 
if you want more torque without losing the benefit of the composite block, you 
might use Falconwood for the cap instead of Delignit.

Ron N



      


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