[CAUT] Retesting

[Ed Sutton]

I do not assume that there is a necessary linkage between continuing education credits and recertification exams. 
The RPT certification and recertification is/would be a category in itself.
Continuing education credits as a voluntary demonstration of efforts to expand and maintain lifelong learning can be another category.
The Passport to Exellence program had no bearing on RPT status.
Ed

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Israel Stein 
  To: caut at ptg.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:38 PM
  Subject: [CAUT] Retesting


  >Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:11:42 -0400 From: "Ed  Sutton" <ed440 at mindspring.com> wrote:


  >Please note below that my suggestion was in regard to continuing education credits, not 
  >recertification exams. 

  >Ed

  Ed,

  The problem with your model Ed is that the same entity (the PTG) is issuing the continuing education credit and also issuing  the certification. So the bottom line is that if someone in the PTG is going to decide whether or not you qualify for any part of the certification (that is, fulfill the continuing education requirement by passing the exit exam), the anti-trust considerations apply. If you want to avoid this problem, you need to either farm out the testing to an outside agency - or follow all the anti-trust guidelines. The law doesn't differentiate between different parts of the organization. If any part of the organization is concerned with any aspect of the certification, the law applies. We have the same problem in other areas of PTG administration - but here were are way off topic... 

  Israel Stein 




  Ed wrote:

  >We could spend some time imagining new ways to give exams. 

  >Physicians can earn continuing education credits via on-line testing which is fully computer 
  >scored and managed. These tests are basic reading questions to show that the doctor has
  >read  the material. The purpose of an exam after a continuing education class would be to 
  >demonstrate that the student had attended and listened somewhat. It would not be a scored 
  >assessment of competency.

    Israel replied:

    There still have to be safeguards against restraint of trade issues - which is the problem we are dealing with here. We can't have one person deciding on the basis of some pop quiz or quick test whether or not someone met the criteria for recertification - whatever those might be. The requirements for objectivity still have to be met. Computer scoring meets this requirement. A pop quiz or a quickie hands-on test after a class do not. 


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