[CAUT] Re Retesting(OT)

[Ward & Probst, Inc]

Dave,

Agreed, it was discontinued for a variety of implementation problems. I
believe it's possible that some of the new member software features would
support this type of record keeping on an individual basis more easily. It's
always been up to the individuals in our group to participate in and market
their own continuing education efforts. In my experience, those who do
profit in many ways including the elegant compensation of doing our work
well.

Dale
Dale Probst, RPT
Registered Piano Technician
Midwestern State University


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Porritt, David
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Dale:

I remember the "passport to Excellence" and while it was a good idea, it had
no authority to it.  It was more of a "you take these classes, why don't you
keep track of it."  That might not be a fair analysis but that was the
feeling I got.  Getting instructors to take it seriously enough to bother
signing the forms was difficult.  I think some more thought would need to go
into the administration of this kind of program but I think that with our
all volunteer culture this is the only possibility for keeping up with our
profession and documenting it.  By the time PTG could get around to
re-testing RPTs I'll be ashes on the mantle.  

This whole idea of some kind of continuing education to keep RPT status
deserves more deliberation.

dave

David M. Porritt, RPT
dporritt at smu.edu



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Probst, Inc
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:17 PM
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Hi John,

PTG had a program called Passport to Excellence about 15 years ago that was
pretty close to what you describe. 
There is an ongoing effort among many folks to encourage continuing
education in PTG for all members. With the advances technology I believe it
will have a positive effect on encouraging continuing education. 
Since the Council voted to discontinue efforts at developing further
certifications, this appears to be the best way forward. 

Best,
Dale
Dale Probst RPT
Registered Piano Technician
Midwestern State University


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jrpiano
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:58 PM
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Hi Jim,
Thank you.
I did have a smiley after my comment about leaving, and Israel did make me 
realize, I was oversimplifying a very complex problem.
Next term is the 21st year for me at the university, I have a contract with.

Just a small one with 40 pianos, which they just have enough money in the 
budget, to tune and do running repairs on.
An RPT designation without work experience, is meaningless.
So to tell a University to higher a tuner with RPT after their name, could 
backfire, if they just got a tuner with RPT after their name, and no 
experience.
Ok one more thought.
No tests, but how about the book idea, with a record of classes and 
conventions attended.
The fact that some teachers attended classes, without any intension of 
learning doesn't apply.
I think that conventions probably cost the attendees, at least $1000. Any
tuner spending that much money, is probably there to learn and improve 
him/her self.
Having a record of attendance at which classes, should mean something, even 
without a test.
So how about a book with different sections, showing the attendance. 
Sections could be tuning, voicing, regulation etc.
When they hand in the class critic forms, they get it stamped and 
initialled.
The book shouldn't cost too much to produce.
Ok, now back to the lurking area.
Best regards,
John,
Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
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