[CAUT] Fwd: Hamburg Steinway Hammer Voicing (Up) - types of collodion

Israel Stein custos3 at comcast.net
Tue Jul 27 13:51:48 MDT 2010


>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:09:58 -0400 From: "Ed Sutton" <ed440 at mindspring.com>: 



>The theater make up department may have some collodion. 
>It's used in stage make up. 
>Ed S. 

Ed, 

I checked theatrical supply places. They use rigid collodion. - we need collodion U.S.P. (flexible). The rigid stuff will act just like lacquer, from what I understand. 

Israel 




>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:51:06 -0600 Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu> wrote: 
> I am going to add a bit to what I posted below about deep needling. 
>With bass hammers, it is often a temptation to say they sound okay as 
>is, and aren't worth the trouble to do the normal full shoulder 
>treatment (standard deep needling in the whole shoulder areas of all 
>hammers). In fact, all hammers of all "hard-pressed" hammers need this 
>to develop a full tonal range, and also to develop projection. If the 
>bass sounds dull, and those hammers haven't seen any needles, do the 
>normal 10 - 40 insertions of a 3 needle tool in each shoulder as a 
>first step, pretty deep (7-10 mm), standard pattern. Adding lacquer or 
>other juices to hard-pressed hammers _should_ be unnecessary except at 
>the very top and sometimes very bottom of the range. Hamburg hammers 
>are plenty dense, and needles ought to be all that is needed. (With 
>the caveat I think David Love mentioned about what you are trying to 
>get out of a board that may not have that possibility). 
>Fred 
>>On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Fred Sturm wrote: 

>>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Ed Sutton wrote: 
>>> 
>>> First try needling in the very low shoulders, what Andre Oorebeek 
>>> calls "the battery." 
>>> Not guaranteed, but I was recently very surprised to find that 
>>> sometimes it makes a big difference. 
>>> ES 
> 

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