[CAUT] Re Retesting

jrpiano jrpiano at eastlink.ca
Mon Jul 26 14:41:26 MDT 2010


Note heading change

If not retesting, why not a class at conventions with a test.
The classes could be more involved than the original tests. Covering 
different areas each year.
It would increase the attendance at conventions.
Attendees would be advancing there knowledge. There could be a book that 
would be stamped each time. The book having been issued when the RPT status 
was reached.
This would prove to all, that progress was being made, and the person was 
not stagnating, content with the initial pass.
John Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Busby" <jim_busby at byu.edu>
To: <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Workload; was Position announcement


Hi Doug,


If 2000 RPTs are to be re-tested every 5 years that's 400 additional tests 
per year, besides the new RPTs, CTEs and TCEs. The bottom line seems to be 
that PTG can't feasibly (at this time) do the extra testing needed. That 
being said, I agree with you and I like the idea of recertification. I'd 
like to see a proposal of how that could happen, where the funding would 
come from, etc.

There are so many ramifications that PTG-L discussions have ended up going 
nowhere (IMO). PTG has begun to gain recognition of the RPT on-line, and I'm 
not discounting that and other plusses, but it seems that something like ASE 
is desirable.

What do the ASE tests cost? How long is their certification? Who tests, and 
who makes up the tests?? Ask your son. I went to the ASE site and looked 
around there. I couldn't find any costs, but I'm probably not in the right 
spot. Looks like a massive bureaucracy there. Interesting...


Best,
Jim Busby




-----Original Message-----
From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of 
Douglas E. Wood
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 12:34 PM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Workload; was Position announcement

I confess to being mystified that I hear so little about ASE certifications. 
My son is a mechanic, currently working on county buses, and he's just 
recertified in many areas. He also plans to add one or two based on his 
current work. It means $$ to him. This skillset testing seems so closely 
parallel to the piano service industry it amazes me that we aren't headed in 
that direction.

Mind you, the tests are hard enough that one either has to be actively 
working on the subjects being tested, or actively studying them. The 
certifications also expire.

I think I must have been not paying attention when the Guild decided to 
avoid this??

Doug




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