It is interesting about the nickel. I don’t prefer nickel because I don’t like the lack of grip that I get on the tuning hammer (among other reasons). I always use blued pins. I wonder if that has something to do with it. Anyway, I guess I would just pay more attention to getting a sharp bend. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Albert Picknell Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:46 AM To: caut at ptg.org Subject: Re: [CAUT] Slipping Beckets Hi Gerry, David I've been using the nickel plated pins. The beckets are long enough, and my coiling technique is no different from one brand of tuning pins to another, but the incidence of slippage with other brands has been zero. It may be I just need to be a little more attentive with the Diamond brand pins, as they will show up even the slightest imperfection in the bend. Not gonna do the Baldwin thing. Cheers, Bert --- On Wed, 2/3/10, G Cousins <cousins_gerry at msn.com> wrote: From: G Cousins <cousins_gerry at msn.com> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Slipping Beckets To: "CAUT" <caut at ptg.org> Received: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 12:16 PM Albert, David is spot on. Make sure that the becket is at length and wire correct at the TP hole. That being said... I recall an instance where the beckets were slipping. The TP hole seemed to have some lubricity. Perhaps from short degreasing of the cutting oils in the factory. Thought I can't be certain. The issue was resolved by running an additional 1-2mm piece of wire beyond the pin (hole) and bending it opposite of the winding direction. This was similar to a practice used by Baldwin. I believe,they used a mechanical stringing device. Others on the list might be able to confirm teh equipment used. This technique effectively makes Z through the pin. Although I personally don't care for the finished look, it did stop the issue without having to totally repin. Gerry C WCUPA _____ From: davidlovepianos at comcast.net To: caut at ptg.org Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:55:32 -0800 Subject: Re: [CAUT] Slipping Beckets I haven’t had that problem. Are you using blued or nickel and are you sure that the beckets are extending far enough through? David Love www.davidlovepianos.com From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Albert Picknell Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:13 AM To: CAUT List Subject: [CAUT] Slipping Beckets Greetings, List In most respects I really like Diamond brand tuning pins, especially their consistency in size. However, since I began restringing pianos with them, I have had to replace anywhere from one to six treble strings per piano because beckets have slipped. I've never had this happen before, and I'm wondering whether anyone else has had a similar experience. Cheers, Albert _____ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! <http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/> Get it Now for Free! _____ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! <http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/> Get it Now for Free! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20100204/79977a87/attachment-0001.htm>
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