[CAUT] ET vs UET

[Zeno Wood]

Perhaps, but it's not as if the other instruments don't have intonation
problems of their own.  Brass instruments especially have lots of out of
tune notes that the player should compensate for.  And not all other
musicians agree that ET on a piano is correct - here's a link to an
interesting page about Pablo Casals and his view of intonation.

http://www.cello.org/heaven/bios/casalsap.htm

Regards,
Zeno Wood


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Jeff Tanner <tannertuner at bellsouth.net>wrote:

>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ed Foote
> Jeff writes:
> >>There is no color in a 14 cent 3rd, there are beats that we hear when
> 2 frequencies that are a certain distance apart are out of phase with one
> another.
>
>       Hmmm, ok, then by  the logic of your original post, you must hear a
> 14 cent third as out of tune?  So you must hear a properly tuned ET as
> totally out of tune?  Or has the brain been convinced that 14 cents is "in
> tune"? If so, then where does it stop, at 10 cents, 19 cents, or is 14 cents
> the only size that is "in tune"? Brainwashing is a pretty strong word, but
> it seems it would apply here...
>
> In my original post, I wrote "Where some hear varying degrees of "color",
> I hear varying degrees of out-of-tune because I haven't been brainwashed to
> hear it as "color".
>
> Properly tuned ET, then, in theory at least, should not have varying
> degress of out-of-tuneness. The out-of-tuneness should be evenly
> distributed. Yes, each key will still have different characters because the
> rates of the faster beating intervals are still different. But it won't
> prevent you from playing in any key because something is so far out of tune.
> Today, when we teach singers from the art song books, you need to be able to
> play the same songs in the bass-baritone key, as well as the tenor, mezzo,
> and soprano. You need to be able to accompany a saxophone, clarinet, flute,
> trumpet, etc., all in their own individual keys without throwing key "color"
> into the mix.  The string quartet needs to be able to play in tune with the
> piano and it not sound like the piano hasn't been tuned (which was the
> reaction I've gotten).
>
>
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