[CAUT] Hamilton hammers

Paul T Williams pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu
Fri Apr 9 21:06:35 MDT 2010


I've tried the Downy/alcohol thing with mixed results.  DONT over do it. I 
really put a "damper" on a practice room grand once.  but then again, 
isn't that why they're called "practice rooms"??? ;>)  If one uses a 
couple of small drops, carefully placed, it does help quite a bit.  Downey 
leaves a slight bluish tint however.  I'm sure there are softeners out 
there that are colorless...(?)

Happy Voicing.

Paul




From:
"Dr. Henry Nicolaides" <drsnic4 at hotmail.com>
To:
College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>
Date:
04/09/2010 10:00 PM
Subject:
Re: [CAUT] Hamilton hammers



I tried this which worked fairly well to decrease the hardness of the 
hammers.  I read in the old Baldwin service manual to use alcohol/water 
dilution and then I read somewhere about adding a few drops of fabric 
softener.  Worked in a pinch and made the piano smell "Downy fresh".  Now 
one year later the fresh smell is gone but the hammers are still mellow.

Henry Nicolaides

Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:18:03 -0500
From: wbis290 at aol.com
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Hamilton hammers

Hi Paul,
 
I think that the advise that was given to go Ronsen is great advise. The 
Ronsens that I have used do give a nice tone without being harsh. If they 
would happen to still be too loud I would be tempted to do something that 
I have tried with very good success on hammers that were very hard and 
when voiced would return to their harshness quickly. I will probably be 
crucified by some for this suggestion but I don't care, I tried it on 
Baldwin Hamiltons and it works. Try a little Profelt on or near the 
striking point. Use a few drops and see what happens. It will take an hour 
or so before you will see the results. One of the universities that I work 
for has Hamiltons in small practice rooms and have been a pain to try to 
get sounding like a piano. No matter what was done, even steaming, the 
hammers would eventually come back to their hard old self again. We are 
finally getting rid of the Hamiltons with Yamahas so there is no reason to 
put money into them. Out of desperation I tried the Profelt and have had 
great results. It's fast and easy. Some of the students have complained 
that the Yamaha's are too loud. I tried the Profelt on them and have had 
great results. Would I use the Profelt every time that I needed to tone 
down a piano? No way. Is it something that can be used when nothing else 
seems to work? Sure. But, be careful, you can over do it and then you have 
a whole different problem of getting the hammers hardened up again and 
have to start over all over.Try it on one of the Hamiltons that is not 
getting new hammers now and see how you like it.
 
God bless
 
Bill Balmer, RPT
Ohio Northern University and the University of Findlay
 
 
 
In a message dated 04/09/10 12:04:27 US Eastern Standard Time, 
dempsey at marshall.edu writes:
All, 

WE have a number of Baldwin Hamilton's c.1968 that live in very small, 
very loud practice rooms. 

A small $$ windfall is going to allow me to re-hammer some of these. When 
new, the hammers were rock hard and defied even the most heroic voicing 
attempts, so I want to make sure that I install something moderately soft 
to start with this time. 

Again, the rooms are small, with block wall construction, tile floors, 
etc. 

Suggestions welcome. 


Paul E. Dempsey, RPT 
Piano Technician Sr. 
Marshall University 
Huntington, WV 
304-696-5418 
304-617-1149 
 

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