Hello again Rick,
On June 22, you claimed, " This is not a discussion forum for... philosophy." With the current aptitude of discourse that I have encountered on the CAUT list, I would emphatically disagree.
Part of what we wrestle with as CAUT technicians is the unique social organization we get matriculated into when hired by the particular University or College we work for. In this milieu, we cease to work for families in the homes of families, and encounter something entirely different than that in our clients, the Other. For me it is impossible to establish understanding concerning social structure at UC without considering the philosophical models that however erroneously constructed after these models, establishes a social construct upon which relationships operate in the Conservatory environment.
In a fraternity, defined as "a local or national organization of male students, primarily for social purposes, usually with secret initiation and rites and a name composed of two or three Greek letters,"
& sorority, defined as "A chiefly social organization of women students at a college or university, usually designated by Greek letters," environment, it is not a stretch of the imagination to identify an effort to adopt a classically Greek model for leadership in the modern secular University. That, I believe, is Plato's "Republic."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sorority
What you have is what could be considered a harmless type of s-exploration that takes place among the students not unlike what Plato describes for his utopian vision, certainly not a regulation of erotic behavior centered around the family, and for the employees of that institution, a type of Philosopher-Ruler role in relationship to the students for the purpose of education, not monitoring moral conduct. The employees of that institution in relationship to one another, on the other hand, are to relate democratically to one another; leadership in the institution is reserved for the purpose of educating students.
I have found it easier to adapt to the modified social expectations of the modern secular University or College because of my familiarity with this literature. This is the Spartan model, not the Athenian model, of the classical Greek city state.
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html
Is not one of the tasks of the CAUT organization to help us understand the modification of social expectations that are a part of the job once we leave self-employment to work for a University or College?
Respectfully,
Ben
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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Richard Brekne [ricb at pianostemmer.no]
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:08 AM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Morality and Piano Technology; was RE: Tuning--again
Ben
I'm on vacation... but I'll quickly respond from afar. What is
<<wrong>> with your religious oriented post(s) is that they are
misplaced. This is not a discussion forum for religion, philosophy, or
the like. It should be obvious the overwhelming portion on CAUT you
would engage in this kind of discussion with are not open, interested or
acceptant. The fact that you will not / or can not see this is what
turns all this into stuffing what is essentially <<your trip>> down
others mailboxes. I might add its a bit presumptuous to go on and
declare to the rest of us what we <<need>> to be open to, as well as it
is to presume that I am "Ok with" other religious subject and am just
singling out one for persecution. This is not the place for such
discussion.... thats as far as anyone else takes it...
Cheers
RicB
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