[CAUT] FW: Re: crack

Fred Sturm fssturm at unm.edu
Fri Jun 26 14:44:34 MDT 2009


On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Ron Nossaman wrote:

> Whatever it's called, the coils in the floor aren't radiant heat.  
> It's convection, like the old also mis named radiators. Cold air  
> sinks to the floor, is warmed by the floor, and little thermals  
> break loose as the air warms, and rise up as more cold air pours in  
> behind it from windows and walls. Radiant heat is just that. It's a  
> heating element that isn't intended to heat the air directly, but  
> warms everything in direct line of sight with it, which then warms  
> the air secondarily. They are often used in large buildings, like  
> hangars and auto shops, where there is a large air volume enclosed  
> and big doors open periodically. You can stand 50 feet away from a  
> radiant heater and feel it, even in below freezing air


	I'm not an expert on the physics of heat transfer, but I know a wee  
bit. The way I understand it, any material body that is "warm" emits  
infra-red rays - radiates heat. That's how those night vision goggles  
work: they pick up on those radiated infra-red rays.
	Yes, the way a radiant heated floor gets the air in the whole room  
warm is through a process of convection. But the air close to the  
floor "picks up heat" due to radiation (it is warmed by absorbing  
infra-red rays from the floor). It then travels up and is replaced by  
cooler air, which repeats the process.
	You could feel the radiant heat from a steam radiator, or from a  
radiant heated floor, from 50 feet away, if the source were hot  
enough. It's a difference of scale. Those industrial radiant heaters  
are awfully hot and put out a lot of energy in the form of infra-red.  
So is a hot wood stove. I believe the radiators or coils in the floor  
are usually limited in temperature to around boiling (old steam  
radiators) or well below (floors).
	Maybe there is a physicist out there who wants to set us straight on  
this.
Regards,
Fred Sturm
University of New Mexico
fssturm at unm.edu





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