[CAUT] Tuning--again

David Ilvedson ilvey at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jun 16 17:04:22 MDT 2009


I'm going to assume that was meant for Tim and not the List.   Keep it amongst yourselves...please

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Sloane, Benjamin \(sloaneba\)" <sloaneba at ucmail.uc.edu>
To: tcoates1 at sio.midco.net; caut at ptg.org
Received: 6/16/2009 3:58:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Tuning--again


>    Hello Tim,

>   First of all, I need to qualify what I am about to say by observing that many 
>people in the media quote the bible to justify an immoral lifestyle. More often than 
>not, I disagree with those who claim this or that is something the bible guarantees 
>us, or teaches, in the media. That having been stated, I am provoked to make some 
>observations from the scripture about the capacity of a piano technician to make 
>moral decisions, though again, the bible can be a terrible source for defining what is 
>moral.

>   The first 3 verses of Psalm 33 read as follows:
>à  øÇðÌÀðåÌ öÇãÌÄé÷Äéí, áÌÇéäåÈä;    ìÇéÀùÑÈøÄéí, ðÈàåÈä úÀäÄìÌÈä.

>1 Rejoice in the LORD, O ye righteous, praise is comely for the upright.

>á  äåÉãåÌ ìÇéäåÈä áÌÀëÄðÌåÉø;    áÌÀðÅáÆì òÈùÒåÉø, æÇîÌÀøåÌ-ìåÉ.

>2 Give thanks unto the LORD with harp, sing praises unto Him with the psaltery of 
>ten strings.

>â  ùÑÄéøåÌ-ìåÉ, ùÑÄéø çÈãÈùÑ;    äÅéèÄéáåÌ ðÇâÌÅï, áÌÄúÀøåÌòÈä.

>3 Sing unto Him a new song; play skilfully amid shouts of joy.


>http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt2633.htm



>    I would like to draw attention to two Hebrew words from this passage, and 
>attempt to explain these in a way that will help us to recognize the possibility of 
>morality in music making as it relates to the musician, the tuner, and the technician.



> 1.  The first is from the 3rd verse.

>It is äÅéèÄéáåÌ , translated skillfully. To fully understand this word, we need to 
>observe another use of the same word in the bible. It also appears in Jeremiah 7:3,5 
>which reads as follows:

>â  ëÌÉä-àÈîÇø éÀäåÈä öÀáÈàåÉú, àÁìÉäÅé éÄùÒÀøÈàÅì, äÅéèÄéáåÌ ãÇøÀëÅéëÆí, 
>åÌîÇòÇìÀìÅéëÆí; åÇàÂùÑÇëÌÀðÈä àÆúÀëÆí, áÌÇîÌÈ÷åÉí äÇæÌÆä.

>3 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: Amend your ways and your 
>doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place.

>ã  àÇì-úÌÄáÀèÀçåÌ ìÈëÆí, àÆì-ãÌÄáÀøÅé äÇùÌÑÆ÷Æø ìÅàîÉø:  äÅéëÇì éÀäåÈä 
>äÅéëÇì éÀäåÈä, äÅéëÇì éÀäåÈä äÅîÌÈä.

>4 Trust ye not in lying words, saying: 'The temple of the LORD, the temple of the 
>LORD, the temple of the LORD, are these.'

>ä  ëÌÄé àÄí-äÅéèÅéá úÌÅéèÄéáåÌ, àÆú-ãÌÇøÀëÅéëÆí åÀàÆú-îÇòÇìÀìÅéëÆí:  
>àÄí-òÈùÒåÉ úÇòÂùÒåÌ îÄùÑÀôÌÈè, áÌÅéï àÄéùÑ åÌáÅéï øÅòÅäåÌ.

>5 Nay, but if ye thoroughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye thoroughly 
>execute justice between a man and his neighbor



>æ  åÀùÑÄëÌÇðÀúÌÄé àÆúÀëÆí, áÌÇîÌÈ÷åÉí äÇæÌÆä--áÌÈàÈøÆõ, àÂùÑÆø 
>ðÈúÇúÌÄé ìÇàÂáåÉúÅéëÆí:  ìÀîÄï-òåÉìÈí, åÀòÇã-òåÉìÈí.

>7 then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, 
>for ever and ever.







>http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1107.htm

>   The word is translated amend in vs. 3 (äÅéèÄéáåÌ) and amend in vs. 5 
>(úÌÅéèÄéáåÌ). When we play, tune, and/or otherwise perfect the sound of a piano, 
>even though it has a lot more than ten strings, I believe we over the course of time 
>learn something about amending our ways, or repentance, as the Hebrew word is 
>employed by Jeremiah. When we play a passage over and over to get it right, what 
>some call wood-shedding, we engage in an activity that teaches us a lot about 
>developing the ability to lead a moral life. You may fail a 1000 times before you 
>finally get it right, and need to take all kind of approaches and practicing techniques 
>before that happens. But finally, you get something like what the composer 
>intended. Likewise, the kind of tenacity that it takes to learn aural tuning by 
>repetition, or the painstaking thoroughness that regulating forces us to engage in, 
>helps us in that experience to develop an understanding of the practice that leading 
>a moral life takes, and how often we have to try for finally achieving something 
>approaching mastery of the task. Morality is difficult to achieve, and sometimes, 
>religion is the biggest obstacle to discovering it, while some kinds of work help us to 
>discover it. That is part of what we learn about morality when, playing, tuning, 
>regulating, and rebuilding pianos. Morality is as difficult to obtain or achieve as being 
>good at pianos.



>2. The second word is from the 2nd verse of the 33rd psalm.



>It is æÇîÌÀøåÌ , translated sing praises unto Him. This is a Hebrew word, as the 
>other, was also used in Aramaic, I believe, the language the 12 apostles used. The 
>etymological source is from a word meaning to pluck, trim, or prune, play on a reed 
>in Arabic, hum, or murmer, in Ethiopian, in other words, pluck or strike a string. This 
>also is something that we enhance the ability to do well at when improving in our 
>craft as piano technicians. When we look at the following from John 15,


> 
>1"(A<http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2015&version=49#c
>en-NASB-26701A>)I am the true vine, and My Father is the 
>(B<http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2015&version=49#cen-
>NASB-26701B>)vinedresser.

> 2"Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch 
>that bears fruit, He 
>[a<http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2015&version=49#fen-
>NASB-26702a>]prunes it so that it may bear more fruit.

>http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2015&version=49

>when we consider that the same Hebrew word for pruning a plant is used for playing 
>a stringed instrument, we realize something about the attitude Jesus taught the 
>disciples that the Heavenly Father had toward them as His children. The same care 
>we employ toward a piano, God employs toward, us, as God’s instruments. God 
>wants to tune us, to fix us, to rebuild us, to restore us, to put His song into us.



>   My sermon for the day.



>      God bless all of you,

>-    Ben









>-----Original Message-----

>From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of 
>tcoates1 at sio.midco.net

>Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:28 PM

>To: Ed Sutton; College and University Technicians

>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Tuning--again



>I read the quote  below to my wife and neither one of us understand it.  My father 
>was a minister and one of my best friends is a minister.  I must not be tuning the 
>right pianos because I don't consider myself even close to the type of decisions they 
>make.  I really am in awe of piano techs whose tunings truly have moral implications.



>Tim Coates

>------Original Message------

>From: Ed Sutton

>Sender: caut-bounces at ptg.org

>To: College and University Technicians

>ReplyTo: Ed Sutton

>ReplyTo: College and University Technicians

>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Tuning--again

>Sent: Jun 15, 2009 8:48 PM



>Yes, that's it!

>Thank you.

>Ed S,



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>Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 6:17 PM

>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Tuning--again





>> Ed S.  writes:

>>

>> <<     "A piano technician makes more moral decisions in 20 minutes than a

>>

>>    preacher makes in a week." Wish I knew who said that. >>

>>

>>      Kelly Ward said that to me when I first spoke to him about going into

>> the trade.  That was in 1974. I believe I quoted him on this list several

>> years ago.

>>

>>

>>

>> Ed Foote RPT

>> http://www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/index.html

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>Tim Coates



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