Richard, Barbara's comment is most likely the culprit. Buzz is metal to metal sounding high freq. If you push down the lock (on the strecher) by using a hammer shank or similar soft device. (avoiding the potential scratching of the brass) you should see the lock stop screw which holds the mechanism in place. Unscrew the phillips screw and remove the fallboard stop lock entirely from the strecher. It will come up adn out. There will be a spring (as a part of this entire assembly) comes down and out. Play the piano and confirm that the buzz has stopped. If it has then most likely the spring is rattling about inside in sympathetic vibration. Thread some thin felt through the spring and reassemble. (If your budget is not like most use renner premium bushing cloth...hahaha). If the buzz is still there then further investigation would be needed (obviously) There was one instance when the lock itself was buzing in the eschuotchen plate but that was confirmed visually and stopping the buzz by putting a finger on the lock plate. In that case the lock itself along with the eschuotchen was replaced. Yes, there was some cabinet (poly) repair needed as the plate is put on prior to the final poly top coat. Good manufacturing but a pain to repair. Hope this helps. Gerry C WCUPA Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:04:26 +0000 From: piano57 at comcast.net To: caut at ptg.org Subject: Re: [CAUT] Kawai GE3 mystery buzz Richard, Sometimes the lock in the stretcher makes noise. Try pushing on it. I was told to take care of it a couple of ways. I had reservations about squirting in some caulk. :-( Or, working some bushing cloth--push the lock plunger(?) and weaving it in. Barbara Richmond, RPT near Peoria, Illinois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Adkins" <RADKINS at coe.edu> To: caut at ptg.org Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:39:33 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [CAUT] Kawai GE3 mystery buzz I'll bet one of your Kawai experts can help me with a myster buzz around C6. Well, it is ON C6, but also a few notes above and a few notes below. To me, is sounds like a buzz from a crack but it might be described as a kazoo sound....but not papery, exactly. I'm told it has done this for quite a while, but they never mentioned it to me until this week! I've never heard it when I tune. I spent about 1.5hrs trying to track it down. I have tightend all screws on the entire piano, including the lid, etc. Most were very tight, and only a few were slightly not tight. I air blew the board incase there might be a paperclip under the plate, etc. NOPE...not there. You can hear the buzz from under the piano, but it is loudest in the area around C6 above the piano. It is either around/near the capo, but sounds like the board. I tried the bridge pins....nope, the front and back "duplexes". NOPE.... The backs are muted by felt, anyhow. I tried: the strings near the tuning pins. Seating strings to bridge. Muting off duplexes. I tightened the damper guide rail screws...but also tried pressing said rail when playing the buzzing notes... NOPE.... Yes, I removed the music rack, tested the prop sticks, and hinges, prop stick cups, too... nope.... I tested the damper tray, the sustenuto lever and the lever jack. NOPE I tested the pedal lyre holding rods, nope....all the trap springs are muted with felt...nope.... As I said all the screws were tightened, including the action screws, the damper stop rail, the damper tray screws, the damper lever flange screws etc. Every screw I could find, I tested to be sure it was tight enough, including screws in the keybed. I tested the bridge pins, front and back....NOPE....seated strings front and back, too...NOPE.... I reshaped C6, did some shoulder voicing... NOPE.... Nothing I'm doing seems to work. Maybe it is coming from the capo bar? If there's bleed through, how come it doesn't go away if I mute it off? There are no cracks in the board, and the bridge seems to be securely glued. I did not feel any buzzing from under the board when pressing the ribs, they all seem to be glued properly. But it is hard to get in there all the way. I tried damping the board with my fingers, but that didn't do anything. I thought I might try lifting the strings on both sides of the capo bar. That's about the only thing I didn't do. De-tuning the unisons did not work to eliminate this buzz/fuzz either. Why does it sound like it's the board? or something under the plate near the front duplexes? I believe it is still under warranty. Ser# 2328919 (1998) but just barely! If you have some ideas, I'd appreciate your help, it is driving the profs nuts....and me, too, since I'm the one who has to find/fix it. I'd like to turn this nope to a yup! Thanks, Richard Adkins Coe College Music Dept. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut_ptg.org/attachments/20090225/6ec6be2e/attachment-0001.html>
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