[CAUT] professor tuning variables (David Love)

Ed Sutton ed440 at mindspring.com
Tue Feb 24 12:20:14 PST 2009


Not sure what you mean.
Ed Foote is Ed Foote, and Ed Sutton is me.
We have some interesting things in common, but aren't the same person, so 
far as I know.

Ed S. = Sutton

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
To: <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] professor tuning variables (David Love)


> In all honesty, I'm not likely to pursue this and am totally I'm with Mr.
> Foote on this one.
>
> David Love
> www.davidlovepianos.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ed
> Sutton
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:28 AM
> To: caut at ptg.org
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] professor tuning variables (David Love)
>
> Jorgensen's book is not necessarily the most helpful in learning to tune 
> WTs
>
> aurally.
> WTs can be revisited using 20th century techniques using A as the pitch
> standard.
> For an easy start, consider that several useful WTs temper A-C# the same 
> as
> ET. thus it is possible to begin with a stack of equal tempered M3's in 
> the
> A octave, then proceed using A and C# as reference pitches.
> Bill Bremmer has refined a "Victorian" WT that he demonstrates often at 
> PTG
> seminars.
> For meantones, set A-C# however you want, divide it into equal-beating
> fourths or fifths, then set the other thirds to the given notes.
> Ed S.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
> To: <caut at ptg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] professor tuning variables (David Love)
>
>
>> Not so much a matter of difficulty, I just haven't taken the time to 
>> learn
>> the WTs (even though I do have Jorgensen's book). At some point you just
>> have to choose where to spend your limited time and energy. Since I don't
>> set temperaments aurally anymore it's not really an issue anyway.
>>
>> David Love
>> www.davidlovepianos.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
>> Israel
>> Stein
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:14 AM
>> To: caut at ptg.org
>> Subject: Re: [CAUT] professor tuning variables (David Love)
>>
>> David,
>>
>> Very interesting. ET is the most difficult and time-consuming
>> temperament to tune aurally. In comparison most WT's are a piece of cake
>> - at least half and often substantially more intervals are tuned
>> beatless. Extensive use of WT's aurally would actually save time as
>> compared to ET or at the very least be time-neutral, if tuners ever
>> bothered to learn them. Only goes to show that given long enough,
>> prisoners learn to love their shackles.
>>
>> Israel Stein
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:14:01 -0800
>>> From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [CAUT] professor tuning variables
>>> To: <caut at ptg.org>
>>> Message-ID: <00cf01c99625$8fa9dc40$aefd94c0$@net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Damn, got me there.
>>>
>>> David Love
>>> www.davidlovepianos.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If not for ETDs, it wouldn't be an option today. How about a
>>> show of hands for those offering a plethora of alternative
>>> temperaments tuned aurally.
>>> Ron N
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 




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