[CAUT] Detuning phenomenon; was: How long to stabilize??

Daniel Gurnee dgurnee at humboldt1.com
Fri Feb 20 08:33:19 PST 2009


The affect of temperature and humidity on stability of pitch of  
various areas of the S&S B and D.  2/17/09

Before I retired from HSU I performed some measurements on  
performance pianos when tuning stability showed a fault.

I feel rather in line with Richard Brekne.

Tuning the day of a program was not always a guarantee of unisons and  
the tenor break.  Touchup was a regular need  just before the  
program. On that general occasion, lights were a problem and with the  
hall filling(200+ persons) produced a change in humidity and  
temperature.  The temperature effect came immediately and the  
humidity effect came on during the performance, usually in time for  
touchup during the intermission.  When the lights came on before the  
performance, the heat increased the temparature of the metals, the  
wire being the most suseptable, increased in dimention to relax and  
go flat. The shortest ones going flatter because their length gave up  
a higher percentage of their tension.   The longer ones gave up less  
and the middle ones gave up less than the short and more than the  
long but all were flat from the affect of the lights. As long as the  
lights remained on the effect remained.  If the piano was moved, I  
now had a new consideration.

Humidity wise, it has been generally understood  that humidity will  
affect wood by three days.  My measurements of pin movement by block  
expansion/contraction indicated mid performance  with the effect of  
audience moisture that the right pin of a unison moved farther from  
the capo/agraff than the left pin.  The measurement taken by  
michrometer was assumed to be pin block expansion which may have been  
caused by humidity or temperature.  During performance this effect  
was indiscriminate because though it was happening it was too small  
for a determination.  However over a long period of larger humidity  
change, the longer string going further sharp being farther across  
the block from the plate ridge than the short string being on a  
shorter width of the block; with the humidity increase the long  
string went sharp to the middle and the short string went flat to the  
middle string, all strings going sharp by their own percentages.

I disregarded the bridge to plate segment because for small changes  
in apitch that segment rarely if ever changes with a change in tension.

By the way, Greg Granoff as my replacement at HSU is very much the  
technician and musician.

Daniel Gurnee, HSU Retired

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