[CAUT] Pizza party

Paul T Williams pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu
Tue Apr 28 05:57:00 PDT 2009


At all the ferry docks in Washington, the light posts, etc have lots of 
little "spikes" on top of different heights 4-6".  That would be fun!

Paul




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Have you ever seen those cones they put on posts in the harbor?   It keeps 
seagulls from having a nice flat place to land.  No I haven't tried it, 
just day-dreaming

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

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From: "Paul T Williams" <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>
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>Hi all CAUT's

>Incorrect, and correct at the same time on both accounts, Alan.  These 
>pianos are OUR pianos.  We all pay taxes, you, your parents, me, my boss, 

>the piano faculty, the students, etc.  These pianos are property of the 
>state in which you live and work.  To make them last must involve 
>cooperative care.  All of these students just forget or haven't grasped 
>the fact of where their taxes go.   What a great place to put your 
>instrument case, your lap-top, your valve oil, etc  It's just the right 
>height after all!!

>I put a very simple note on all practice pianos on the lid.. "nothing 
>allowed on the pianos...especially anything liquid."  Guess what... most 
>of those notes gave permission to students to simply use my note as a 
>"coaster" for their drink!! :>(   All of them have the tell-tale cup ring 

>on them.  I know Oberlin has a $50 fine for anything brought into the 
>practice rooms or class-rooms....maybe a good choice... if it can be 
>"policed". Or, we can all put covers on the lids; fit in just a way to 
>make them just a bit too fluffy to set anything on them.  There's some 
>bucks to spend!

>We have at least two benches in each practice room, one for their butts 
>and one to put their junk on, but that doesn't work either!

>ALL  FACULTY (except two or 3) put junk on their pianos here...including 
>some who choose to put total city displays of whatever Euopean city they 
>visited over their journeys.. on their studio pianos...and most of them 
>have done so for years, so who am I to tell them?!!  I'm just "the help" 
>in most of their minds,( never mind that I've have gained at least as 
much 
>or more education and experence than any Post doctorate shy of a PHD: 
>therefore putting me on par with them or better...also with 30+ years of 
>performance experience...alomost none of which can match!!); and should 
>just please their every whim, including taking all their junk off "their" 

>pianos for service...Unless the faculty also keep ALL crap off their 
>pianos, then, so will the students slurely follow.  This, too will take 
>time,,,, as Mom put beautiful Christmas scenes on the top of Grandma's 
>pianos as they grew up.  There's no end.  It will never end!!!  Perhaps 
>plexiglass or Spurlock-style white plastic fitted for each piano is the 
>way,  but, why encourage them to do it?  There is a way, but I'm not 
>experienced enough to control this. 

>How have all of you to keep faculty from putting junk on their pianos? 
I'm 
>very curious.

>Thanks for all response!

>Best, 
>Paul




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>"They are not your pianos.  You can't take it personally."
>Yes, and when I get the attitude, "Yea, Alan, we know: These are YOUR 
>pianos..", I tell them, "No, they are YOUR pianos.  My piano is at home, 
>and I would NEVER bring it here!" ;) 

>Alan Eder


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Zeno Wood <zeno.wood at gmail.com>
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>Sent: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:06 pm
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>David (Skolnik, that is),

>Thanks for your insights, they all ring true.  Dealing with egos in any 
>kind of institutional setting can be tricky, and that's a big part of 
>working at a college.  I've been lucky to have the support of the Chair 
>and others, and in fact, when I say I've sent emails to the faculty, 
>what's actually happened is the Chair has forwarded my emails to the rest 

>of the faculty. 

>I hope I haven't given the idea that I play Piano Cop (if at all, I'm the 

>Good Cop ).  I think that I've established a working relationship with 
the 
>students and faculty from having taught a few classes and playing in a 
>student ensemble when time allows.  I've also been seen as a resource and 

>have been invited to give piano presentations to piano students and 
>composers.

>Anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with your point that "They are not your 
>pianos.  You can't take it personally."  We take care of the instruments, 

>but they're not there for us.  And if nobody used them, we wouldn't have 
a 
>job to begin with.

>Cheers,
>Zeno Wood
>An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! 


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