[CAUT] Cleaning solution

[G Cousins]

Jim
Simple green, Yes for Keytops  4:1 or thinner.
Murphys, OK for wood's not too bad on Sat Eb.s though needs elbow work and time to complete task
Vinegar ("universal" cleaning agent)  diluted properly is ok
Cory build up?  Sounds as if it was used (applied) incorrectly.  Read:wrong matching of product to piano fininsh. 
Yes it is possible if the wood polish products if you use it alot. 
The key cleaner is just that. a good surfactant for all materials.
high gloss is silicone based although a VERY VERY tiny amount (something like less than .5 of 1% if memory serves) so you'd have to use it for centuries to get any bild up.
Satin finish prods have 2 versions one for lacques and the other for poly satins (yammys) Select accordingly
Microfiber duster is available just about anywhere. I prefer the cheese cloth for many many reasons and uses around the shop.
 
More..  The swiffer type dusters pads are excellent for soundboards. I use them with sbd steels, Bill Spurloc tools some cleaning tools I used to have made and some other home made types.
 
Finally there is a pretty good vac called H2O Turbo vac i purchased from one of those TV places.  Has a water bucket to trap the dust, HEPA filters and such. Really nice, compact, and a lot of (variable speed) power.
Had a 2 for 1 promo so should be good for at least a few years. When one dies I have a replacement.
 
Looking forward to summer.
 
Gerry
is est quinque alicubi 


From: jim_busby at byu.edu
To: caut at ptg.org
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:06:21 -0600
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Cleaning solution







Gerry,
 
Good post.
 
So here is what I’m finding out, so far;
 
1.       Simple Green and Murphy’s Soap seem to be safe for anything.
2.       Alcohol, ammonia, windex, may hurt some finishes.
3.       Cory products may be good (A refinisher here told me NO on these due to buildup.
4.       Microfiber High Performance Polishing cloth? (Sounds good. Got to get me one)
 
Anything else?
 
Jim
 


From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of G Cousins
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:18 AM
To: CAUT
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Cleaning solution
 
Mike,
I did a bunch of work and piano surface cleaning & maintenance formulations many years ago so here's my 2c. 

Do Not use ANY ammonia formulas on any high gloss finishes. Many of the Windex formulas and almost of the off label brands contain ammonia in the formula. It does dull the high gloss finish.
 
For basic cleanings just use water. IF there are fingerprints, oils or derrivatives, use any neutral cleaning agent.  Eg: Simple Green at appropriate dilution. You can also use the Cory Care products. He does have ok formulas although the pricing may impinge on the school budget.
With any water based elixers always use the minimum, think moist rather than wet amount on a cheese cloth material. Cotton cloths ( towles, t-shirts etc. are made to absorb. They waste alot of fluids by wicking up the fluid into the cloth rather than holding/carrying the fluid to allow spreading onto the surface to be treated.  Paper products are wood based and always cause scratching of some sort.
 
Hopefully this is not newsworthy but figured I'd mention it anyway.
Nitro/Satin finishes on SS are harmed by certain chemicals, thinners, alcohols etc. so a BIG word of caution and stay away. 

Back to the trenches.  =)
Gerry 
 



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From: pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:08:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Cleaning solution


Seems to work for Oberlin.  Although I think all their Steinways are satin.  I haven't tried it. 

They do have one or two Hamburgs.  I can ask Robert how they treat them.  Maybe just a damp cloth followed by a dry one.  That's what I would do on a high gloss. 

Paul 







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Oh Oh, I've heard that ammonia will cloud hi-gloss finishes, the same with Windex.  Don't know if this is reliable info or not...... 
    Mike Kurta, RPT 
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