[CAUT] CAUT appropriate; was: How do you spell fraud?

[Jeff Tanner]

Ed,
I apologize if my language implied that I felt you were policing the list.  And I only used the example of the CAUT material published in the Journal to make the point that had the material been "appropriately" posted, it would have been to the pianotech list and not the CAUT list.  An excellent discussion it was, and yet the discussion could have been completely different had it been posted to the pianotech list.

I would suggest we consider that there is one group of listers that you will find on CAUT, another on pianotech, each list with a different "personality", and among these a group which subscribes to both.  I think a poster needs to consider which group of readers he/she wants to pose a question to.  But we do have to realize that posting only to one or the other group will gather an incomplete set of responses.  Otherwise, if we technically stick to the issues relevant only to CAUT, there would be very little use being made of this list.

I did subscribe to the pianotech list not long ago just for the purpose of posing one question, getting a few responses and unsubscribing.  When I got back to my mailbox the next morning, it took me half a day to sort through the responses I was interested in and just hitting the delete key for those not related.  In my case, still on dial up for very good reasons (saving over $40 a month to have access from both home and the business), that also means quite a long time to download the emails into the inbox.

I've done work for 4 different colleges since I left my full time job last March. Knowing most of the posters to this list, I'm pretty sure there is no requirement that one be a full-time CAUT to post and read, so I think you have no worries about that :-)

Jeff
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ed Sutton 
  To: caut at ptg.org 
  Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 12:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAUT appropriate; was: How do you spell fraud?


  Jeff-

  First of all, I'm not the sheriff of CAUT. Considering that I only do a small amount of college work on contract, I'm luck that CAUT lets me stay on the list. It's almost 10 years since I was a full-time CAUT.

  The Journal editors follow both lists (an onerous duty, I assure you...). In doing so, I notice there are folks who post everything to both lists. There may be times that this is appropriate, but if everyone did it all the time, CAUT would become as chat-heavy as Pianotech, and the purpose of CAUT would be lost.

  Therefore, I suggest we should all consider if there is a good reason for double-posting before we double-post to both lists, realizing that every time we post, we demand the attention of several hundred colleagues. Posts to Pianotech get plenty of attention, as you know.

  Ed
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jeff Tanner 
    To: Ed Sutton ; caut at ptg.org 
    Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 11:16 AM
    Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAUT appropriate; was: How do you spell fraud?


    I'm sorry.  If someone has time for pianotech, all they could possibly be doing is sitting in front of their computer 24-7.  I had to leave that list a long time ago.  I've come to think of this list as a more efficient alternative.

    If you read through the posts on the CAUT list, it seems to me that only a small percentage could be defined as being CAUT-only material.  If we actually limited this list to CAUT-only material, we would only be discussing things like dealing with faculty and administrations, working conditions, salary, job openings, inventory management, HVAC, scheduling, subbing out work, contract matters and the like.  These are the kinds of issues that make CAUT life different from that of any other piano technician, and yet, they are rarely discussed here.  Everything else (such as the aural/ETD debate gleaned from CAUT recently published in the PTJ) would actually belong on the pianotech list, and then, who would have time for pianotech, for sure?

    Jeff
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ed Sutton 
      To: caut at ptg.org 
      Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 10:32 AM
      Subject: Re: [CAUT] How do you spell fraud?


      I'm wondering what this topic has to do with CAUT.
      It has also been posted on Pianotech, where it seems appropriate.
      Ed S.
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