Thanks Alan. All this info helps. Some day I'd like to hear what you have there. This discussion has been good because it explains why I have had limited success with certain hammers on certain pianos. It's like trying to put a square peg in a round hole. In general I've had the best success using Steinway hammers with Steinway, etc. I'm now pushing BYU to get a Nossaman piano, and in so doing will push all my rebuilds in that direction. So, this is all needed info. Regards, Jim -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Alan McCoy Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:23 PM To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Weikert felt; was 80 year old S&S hammers Hi Jim, I just installed a Del Fandrich designed, Terry Farrell made and ribbed board. This is a very flexible board with a lighter than Ron Nosman rib scale and it's a tapered board (9mm max in places to 6mm min in places). I won't be rebuilding the action until next summer. So I had a chance to hear it with the old hammers. Those hammers on the S&S board were voiced fairly mellow - not too dark, not too bright. But it was not an inspiring sound. On Del's board they are so bright and pingy and I cannot kill them. I've tried! :-) This is a very lively board. We've had several guest recitals and they have been drawn to this board even given its current too-bright sound. I think it is the liveliness and vitality that attracts over the other D, which is still an amazingly nice 100 year old. I will be using Ronsen Bacons on it. Reports to follow in a few months. The last set of Ronsen Bacon hammers I installed (last summer) were very good - consistent thickness and hardness (or softness, your choice) and weight. They were firmer than the same hammer from several years back, but still needing hardener. But on Del's design? I can well imagine not needing lacquer. Alan > From: Jim Busby <jim_busby at byu.edu> > Reply-To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" <caut at ptg.org> > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 05:33:40 -0600 > To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" <caut at ptg.org> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Weikert felt; was 80 year old S&S hammers > > Ron, Alan, > > I haven't seen a lot written on this. Does this mean that, let's say, a "hot > pressed" hammer vs. the so called cold pressed would go better on a CC board > vs RC&S? Or that one of your boards will sound best with a certain hammer, but > the same hammer wouldn't on another board? When I replace hammers I know some > sound better on certain pianos by trial and error, but what is the science > here, for us non-scientific types? Or at least some guidelines? > > Thanks. > > Jim Busby > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ron > Nossaman > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 9:43 PM > To: caut at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Weikert felt; was 80 year old S&S hammers > > David C. Stanwood wrote: >> Hi Alan, >> >> And the weight of the hammers is a fundamental factor as well. >> >> David Stanwood > > Absolutely, within the limits established by the *type* and > specific design of the board. > Ron N > >
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