[CAUT] Another Baldwin Question/backchecks

PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
Tue Apr 14 14:39:33 PDT 2009


I use a backcheck bending tool and a wood block on the bench just in  front 
of the keyend with the backchecks facing me. I calibrate the block  
thickness and position so that when I do a full stroke of the bending tool, the  
block stops the travel of the tool and the bend at the same place every  time. 
It's very fast and very consistent. 
 

 
 
In a message dated 4/14/2009 4:19:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
fssturm at unm.edu writes:

A too  shallow angle will mean that the tail can be pushed through, (if you 
use  finger pressure downward on the hammer, on the bench with the hammer 
in check)  rather than getting tighter. And that means inconsistency in 
actual  performance. So experiment with changing the angle. I like to hold the 
wire  with a slotted tool and bend the head with my hand (that is, pressing on 
the  head, make a bend in the wire close to the head). Then you readjust 
check  distance and try again. When you get something that works well, you can 
work  with a straightedge and make all of them the same (checking from time 
to time  to see that it is working, rather than adjust all of them and then 
say Whoops!  should have been a little different <G>) A straightedge is 
easier than  gauging angles individually.

 
Regards,
Fred Sturm
University of New Mexico
_fssturm at unm.edu_ (mailto:fssturm at unm.edu) 







On Apr 14, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Paul T Williams wrote:



I aim for the gap  between the bottom of hammer tail and top of backcheck 
at the point of  let-off to be 1/16".  This all works with this piano.  Now, 
my  point is that the angle is off.  It's very shallow...like 11 or 12  
degrees rather than what I think it should be at 17 degrees...Is this right?  
They just don't check right. 

Paul 



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Hi Wim,

I do this height check AT drop, not at full  keystroke.  I aim for 1-2mm 
gap in this position.  Different  strokes.

William R. Monroe



On Tue,  Apr 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM, <_wimblees at aol.com_ 
(mailto:wimblees at aol.com) > wrote:  
Ron

Is this with a normal stroke, or a let off/drop  check stroke?

Wim 


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From: Ron Nossaman  <_rnossaman at cox.net_ (mailto:rnossaman at cox.net) >
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Subject: Re: [CAUT] Another Baldwin  Question/backchecks

Paul T Williams  wrote: 
> > Hi All. 
> > In regulating this  Baldwin R I've been talking about. I'm narrowing in 
> (I hope) on a  couple of issues hindering the regulation. I think the > 
backchecks are  too high. 
> > Does anyone have the specs on how high up from  the back of the key the 
> backchecks should be? 1966 Baldwin R. The angle  is also wrong, but I > 
have that information, but I think, since these  are not original, they > 
were not installed deep enough into the key, or  the wires from whatever > 
supply house were too long. 
> >  Any hints? 
> > Thanks people! 
> >  Paul 

With the key fully depressed, and the action in  otherwise decent 
regulation, the top of the back check should be no higher  than the end of the hammer 
tail, or a couple of millimeters  below. 
Ron N   




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