[CAUT] caut Digest, Vol 1110, Issue 23

[Nancy Bogle]

Jeannie Grassi is correct.  Eric Schandall told me that one is allowed to mention the factory training, but not to imply or say that one is certified.  The actual notion of a "certified Steinway technician" is what has been a long lived myth.
I did not know that the final class was by invitation only.  I would look into that.


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>    1. Re: caut Digest, Vol 1110, Issue 16 ("Steinway
> technician")
>       (Jim Busby)
>    2. Re: caut Digest, Vol 1110, Issue 16 ("Steinway
> technician")
>       (Jeannie Grassi)Fred,
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding
> that only a very small handful of technicians actually
> complete all of the S&S seminars and get that
> certificate you mentioned. In fact, I only personally know
> 4 who have. I was also told that the last class is "by
> invitation only". IOW, there are only a few that will
> get that call. This not only shows the caliber technician
> you are, but seems to indicate that those certificates are
> rare indeed! Kudos to you!
> 
> Jim Busby
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On
> Behalf Of Fred Sturm
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:02 PM
> To: College and University Technicians
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] caut Digest, Vol 1110, Issue 16
> ("Steinway technician")
> 
> 
> On May 6, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Nancy Bogle wrote:
> 
> > I have taken the first Comprehensive class at S&S
> in Queens, NY, and
> > according to them, one can call oneself 
> "Steinway factory trained",
> > but that there has never been such a thing as a
> "certified Steinway
> > technician".  The latter is a long lived myth.
> 
> Curious, who told you that? The letter saying you have been
> invited/
> accepted/whatever to any given session has a line
> specifically saying
> you may not advertise your Steinway training or something
> to that
> effect. OTOH, after my final class in January, I was sent a
> sort of
> "certificate" saying that I had attended the
> concert prep session,
> signed by Eric and Gary Green. Which I certainly feel free
> to put up
> on my wall where I can admire it. <G>
>         All very curious. On the one hand, they are anxious
> to have well-
> trained techs servicing their pianos, especially in concert
> venues.
> OTOH, they don't want any responsibility for our work,
> I suppose. But,
> hey, I guess I wouldn't mind being able to put
> "Steinway factory
> trained" on my resume if that is, indeed, sanctioned.
> 
> Regards,
> Fred Sturm
> University of New Mexico
> fssturm at unm.eduJim,
> I got a certificate for just the Tuning and Tone Production
> Seminar (The
> name keeps changing) when I attended in February.  It was
> not for all 3
> seminars, although I have been to all of them.  This is
> something pretty new
> and I'm not sure it really counts for much.  I think
> Kent printed it up on
> his computer.  
> 
> We still were told we could not advertise as certified
> Steinway technicians.
> If someone asks, we may say we received training and
> participated in
> seminars at the factory, but we can't advertise that
> way.
> 
> Jeannie Grassi
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On
> Behalf Of Jim
> Busby
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:28 PM
> To: College and University Technicians
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] caut Digest, Vol 1110, Issue 16
> ("Steinway technician")
> 
> Fred,
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding
> that only a very small
> handful of technicians actually complete all of the S&S
> seminars and get
> that certificate you mentioned. In fact, I only personally
> know 4 who have.
> I was also told that the last class is "by invitation
> only". IOW, there are
> only a few that will get that call. This not only shows the
> caliber
> technician you are, but seems to indicate that those
> certificates are rare
> indeed! Kudos to you!
> 
> Jim Busby
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On
> Behalf Of Fred
> Sturm
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:02 PM
> To: College and University Technicians
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] caut Digest, Vol 1110, Issue 16
> ("Steinway technician")
> 
> 
> On May 6, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Nancy Bogle wrote:
> 
> > I have taken the first Comprehensive class at S&S
> in Queens, NY, and
> > according to them, one can call oneself 
> "Steinway factory trained",
> > but that there has never been such a thing as a
> "certified Steinway
> > technician".  The latter is a long lived myth.
> 
> Curious, who told you that? The letter saying you have been
> invited/
> accepted/whatever to any given session has a line
> specifically saying
> you may not advertise your Steinway training or something
> to that
> effect. OTOH, after my final class in January, I was sent a
> sort of
> "certificate" saying that I had attended the
> concert prep session,
> signed by Eric and Gary Green. Which I certainly feel free
> to put up
> on my wall where I can admire it. <G>
>         All very curious. On the one hand, they are anxious
> to have well-
> trained techs servicing their pianos, especially in concert
> venues.
> OTOH, they don't want any responsibility for our work,
> I suppose. But,
> hey, I guess I wouldn't mind being able to put
> "Steinway factory
> trained" on my resume if that is, indeed, sanctioned.
> 
> Regards,
> Fred Sturm
> University of New Mexico
> fssturm at unm.edu_______________________________________________
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