[CAUT] piano moving stuff

[Paul T Williams]

Thanks Ken.

This sounds like a good idea.  I may get this set up for myself here in 
the shop.

You mention that the piano horse rolls up the ramp.Could you clarify this 
part of it?  I didn't see the horse having wheels on Jannsen's web site.  
It looks like it just lowers down on a skid-board and then you would still 
need to lift up one end to get a dolly under it.

Paul 



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Hey, Paul,

I have both of those items here and I love them.  We bought them a few 
years ago when we got tired of what the movers were charging.  Now we do 
almost all our piano moving in house.  The Wind Ensemble has a Steinway M 
that they use for most concerts in the percussion section.  Their practice 
room and concert venue are in different buildings.  I pack it up 
completely by myself; I only get help from one of the grad students to get 
it up the ramp into the truck.  I don’t think I would move a C7 without a 
helper, though.

The piano horse and the grand chariot are great pieces of equipment, but 
they were not designed to work together.  You will need to make a ramp so 
the horse will roll up it to the platform level of the chariot.  Otherwise 
the piano sets down onto the platform too early, and you have to use brute 
force to lift the piano from about 30-40 degrees on up to vertical.  Not 
fun.  Some pictures of my ramp are attached.  The ramp is the same height 
as the chariot platform, 9 3/4”.  The ramp length is 34”, which is the 
length of the curved part of the horse, less 3” to set the piano down at 
the right spot.  That makes the base of the ramp 32 1/2”.  Note that the 
bottom cross brace at the high end is set in, to clear the chariot wheel. 
The frame is square tubular steel, the same stuff the horse is made of. 
The top surface is 3/4” plywood.  A decent welder can make it in a couple 
of hours.  I use a jack-in-a-box (actually a jack-on-a-post that I made) 
to lift the bass leg to get the piano on the horse.  After using them for 
2-3 years, I would never go back to the old school ways.

You might also want to check out http://www.holzter.com/ for their grand 
pads and leg/lyre carriers.  Pretty cool stuff.

Regards,
Ken Z.


On 6/25/08 12:27 PM, "Paul T Williams" <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> 
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Hi all 

I hope your time in Anaheim was good for all! 

We have a professor here who is going to be "on the road" with her Yamaha 
C-7 this fall.  she asked me about piano moving stuff and mentioned the 
piano horse (janssen) and something called a "grand chariot"  which looks 
more like a skidboard with wheels. 

Have any of you used these things?  Are they worth the money? (she has a 
grant to buy said items)  Anything better out there? 

Thanks in advance 

Paul 



-- 
Ken Zahringer, RPT
University of Missouri
School of Music

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