[CAUT] piano moving stuff

[Dave Davis]

I'm looking forward to using the Amway shampoo! That is if I have hair left by then.
Dave Davis, RPT


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To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>
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You have to bring a list of your 12 best friends!  :-)
 
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From: "Porritt, David" <dporritt at mail.smu.edu> 

Dale:
 
Is it true that the Banquet next year is also going to be an Amway party?
 
dp
 
 
David M. Porritt, RPT
dporritt at smu.edu
 
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PW,
 
Many movers regularly turn grands on the lyre without problems. I don't because we have the Horse and it seems safer to me. Gordon Crail, who invented the Horse, is a friend and we have a prototype that has been used for years in the shop and on the road. He suggests, blocking the tail end of the dolly up, using a person to counter balance the key end, and using a lift strap. Doing this saves a lot of strain, as about half of the lift is done. I don't have pics of the skids but the GC is sort of like what we have. We have fixed wheels in the center and swivel wheels at each end. 
I enjoyed the Annual and it seemed to me that most everyone else did. The facility was good and the Institute and Home Office staff had every thing running smoothly. Next year it will be in Grand Rapids, MI at the Amway Grand Hotel which looks like one of the best venues yet.
DP 
July 15, 2009--July 19, 2009
52ND ANNUAL CONVENTION
Amway Grand Hotel
Grand Rapids, MI
Contact: Sandy Roady
4444 Forest Avenue, Kansas City, KS 66106
Phone: 913-432-9975
Fax: 913-432-9986
 
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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Paul T Williams
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:17 PM
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I NEVER use the lyre for tilting.  Who does such a horrible thing?  How would one combine the two?  I'm trying to visualize  getting the lifting of the back end of the grand away for getting a dolly under....  Sure would save some backs!!! 

pw 

ps Thanks.  I think I may get a Horse for myself here in the shop..  It looks real good.  any pics of your shop built thing? 
How was natonal? 

pw 




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Hi Paul, 
  
Use the Horse all the time and love it. The only problem may be combining the two. It looks like the Grand Chariot http://www.premiermovingequipment.com/may be raised off the ground a bit and the Horse is designed to take the piano to the ground. I use something similar to the GC that is shop built and it requires more care to use it in combination with the Horse. Looks like the GC is designed for those who use the lyre for turning. 
  
DP 
Dale Probst, RPT 
Midwestern State University 
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Hi all 

I hope your time in Anaheim was good for all! 

We have a professor here who is going to be "on the road" with her Yamaha C-7 this fall.  she asked me about piano moving stuff and mentioned the piano horse (janssen) and something called ! a "gran d chariot"  which looks more like a skidboard with wheels. 

Have any of you used these things?  Are they worth the money? (she has a grant to buy said items)  Anything better out there? 

Thanks in advance 

Paul 
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