Hi David Most of your questions I think were pretty much delt with in both Jeffs last and my reply to it. But to preciserer, the RPT status would not be eliminated no, its meaning would be more in keeping with what in actuality the designation represents... a basic skills starting journeymans credential. I do see the value of specialized and much harder to achieve <<Meister>> credentials myself. But of course only if they are designed to be exclusive in the positive sense of the word and followed up by an aggressive marketing policy by the interest organizations who stand behind these credentials. I think Steinway has shown quite clearly that this kind of marketing can be done and very effectively. As far as specifics as to how to implement such, Sure its tough and sure its full of politics etc etc. There are always a million reasons not to do a thing. But I dont think its crazy to take on a worthy task despite the difficulties that lay in front. Questions like who should be grandfathered in etc would have to be dealt with in that process of course... but it would seem to me that there is no need for that kind of thing here... nor would it be desireable. As for the RPT exams... we should remember that much of the difficulty surrounding those had to do with the ETD use as part of the tuning exam, and the fact that it was part of a unification process of two previous organizations. These kinds of certifications, tho daunting tasks in themselves... do not have those kinds of problems to confront. Cheers RicB Most of the school listings I see, would prefer PTG membership and RPT status. Would new listings start including RPT and CAUT status preferred or possibly you think the RPT status can be eliminated as it has no meaning? I don't see the need for another "credential". Would the CAUT credential we much harder to achieve? i.e. a "real" test. Would existing College techs be grandfathered in? Besides, it's easy to talk about it...I know all the stuff concerned with RPT status was years in the making and a huge amount of work...and the politics...YIKES...who's going to take that job on? Are you guys crazy? David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044
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