[CAUT] Steinway D elevations

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Sat Jun 30 05:50:12 MDT 2007


 Hi Andrew, 

The idea behind extra long hammers is, of course, to allow you to customize the molding length to reflect variations in string elevation.? As I learned to work with these from Richard Davenport, the first thing you do with these is some judicious pre-needling and filing (for which a production hammer clamp, such as the one made by Keith Bowman and marketed by Renner USA comes in very handy).? After cutting the moldings to custom lengths and doing all of the other usual steps, keeping weight in mind, I haven't found them to be significantly heavier than other hammers.? I have most recently put Renner Big Blues on a Falcone 7' 4" and a Stwy D to the across the board satisfaction and delight of a broad range of student and professional pianists here at CalArts.? Davenport has used them on numerous Stwy Bs and Ds with great success ever since they became available.? 

Cheers,

Alan Eder


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Anderson <andrew at andersonmusic.com>
To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Steinway D elevations











Do Steinways (nine footers) like bigger, heavier hammers like that.?
Seems to me I've heard they are a little heavy to begin with and come
into their own after a few filings.? Comments, controversy?


Andrew Anderson


At 06:37 PM 6/29/2007, you wrote:


Renner Big Blues are also
available this way.

?

Alan Eder




-----Original Message-----

From: Don Mannino <DMannino at kawaius.com>

To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>

Sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 1:09 pm

Subject: Re: [CAUT] Steinway D elevations




Doug,


In my opinion, the best performance will come if the hammers are
bored

to fit the string height, and the tails are then trimmed to the
correct

distance below the shanks after the hammers are hung. This will
allow

regulation for the best action performance, leaving fudge room in
the

regulation for wear and such.


This means ordering extra long, un-coved hammers from someone like

Ronson - I don't know if anyone else is currently making something
like

that.? Perhaps Brooks has some Abels configured like that.


I haven't bought hammers from Steinway in a long time, but with a
high

center string height I think their tails will end up being short in
the

center.? This necessitates either lengthening the tails or raising
the

backchecks.? I don't like raising the backchecks that far, though,
and

adding wood to the tails is kind of a hassle.


I would go ahead and measure height at each note and try to taper
your

boring distance to match.? Measure your action center height
carefully,

though, and check the keybed for relative flatness.? Everything
tends to

be curved on those pianos, and this can throw off your boring
specs.


Don Mannino




> -----Original Message-----

> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org
[
mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On 

> Behalf Of Douglas Wood

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:12 PM

> To: College and University Technicians

> Subject: [CAUT] Steinway D elevations

> 

> I have a question for those of you with experience in custom 

> boring hammers. Our heavily-used and very nice D#542295 has 

> an elevation challenge that I'm working on. The piano 

> generally works very well, but has a reputation for being 

> "tricky". I think part of this is due to the following
problem:

> 

> The string height in the upper tenor is nearly 1/8" higher


> than the sections on either side, and note 88 is 1/8 lower 

> than the majority of the piano.

> 

> So, the regulation does work, but that central section has 

> the shanks a bit high off the rest felts, and the rest of the 

> piano has shanks nearly on the rest felts. As I say, it 

> works, but I'm considering a custom boring job to match the 

> bore to the string heights. I will, of course, revisit stack 

> height before boring, as I'd like to do the figures only once
more.

> 

> The real question is, how far from nominal bore spec can one 

> go before encountering other problems? And should I follow 

> the string heights closely all the way across, or do more 

> like Steinway does, and allow regulation to take up some of 

> the variance?

> 

> Doug Wood

> 







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